Game balance

[gisborne]

Order has more kills bc they are more organized. Destro classes are demonstrably stronger, so this shows how little difference fine tuning class balance makes to the overall success of a faction.

[arturziomas]

The thing that order is a lot more organized at is shilling for their realm on the forums, that's for sure.

[Kyouaku]

The thing that order is a lot more organized at is shilling for their realm on the forums, that's for sure.

Having played both, he is right, it's so easy to get groups going on order most of the time, on destro, it's like pulling teeth.

[ponko22]

Yes, please, nerf destro so that order can go from 10% more kills on average to 20%, or actually nerf it even harder, let's reach 30%

I'm not trying to call for a nerf; I'm just saying, doesn't it annoy you when people who have never even played that class make illogical claims about it?
For example, I've never played SM or BO, but if I were to talk about those classes arrogantly and demand adjustments, wouldn't you be annoyed with me? There are a lot of people like that, and it's a pointless argument, so I wish they'd stop.

[Shogun4138]

All you need is a WL. Still the best class in the game. They have all the tools of other classes and they can reset any fight.

With SL being nerfed, the only reason people are saying WL is good for Order's MDP is because it has everything.
If you claim it has everything, please explain it logically based on facts. Does it have AoE CC like Mara? Does it have buffs? Does it have punts like SH? Does it have multiple useful debuffs or defensive tactics like WE or Mara? Can it disappear? Can it reduce magic damage by 100%? Is a Lion that approaches on foot better than a pet that attacks from a distance in SH (which also has M1's 100% damage buff and 25% damage buff)?

It really pisses me off when people who have never played WL say things like this. My WE is a RR70 noob, but can I arrogantly yell "WE is OP!" just like you?

Pull
Pounce
Charge
Ranged knockdown
Armor debuff
Heal
Pet that can out run a horse
Pet that goes through walls
Pet that cant be kitted.
Instant pull out pet.

Its a great class that adds to everything. Solo, small man, warband. They can reset any fight. Its just obvious. I dont want them nerfed. My point was if they suck on 3 characters then maybe they should play regen WLs