Patch Notes 06/02/2024

[Mortgrimm]

My conclusion after longer testing of the new Blood of Grimnir on IB:
The skill is not really an usefull replacement for GnM. AP bot is not a spec anymore. And u take away the bit self heal for solo player.
I guess noone would pick it in warbands as SnB cause of all the aoe channel.
It may be okay in small scale if u have at least 2 melee dps with high aa as u boost the dmg. In a duo it´s already very questionable.
A no go as solo.
This ability is way too high in the tree. U are forced to break a good gear set to get the channel AND the BoG. The 30 grudge it costs are too high as IB already has problems getting grudge fast enough. 15 grudge is maybe a way but not sure it would be enough to make it an option.

I also have a question regarding the nerf of HB. Why ppl think it was OP and had to be nerfed? It is one of our very few abilities that deal dmg anyway.

All together it´s a big down for the IB for me.

[othr]

Please back out some of the choppa changes, like the damage increase. Also remove the pull component from GTDC, the pull diarrhea is out of control.

[Rotgut]

My conclusion after longer testing of the new Blood of Grimnir on IB:
The skill is not really an usefull replacement for GnM. AP bot is not a spec anymore. And u take away the bit self heal for solo player.
I guess noone would pick it in warbands as SnB cause of all the aoe channel.
It may be okay in small scale if u have at least 2 melee dps with high aa as u boost the dmg. In a duo it´s already very questionable.
A no go as solo.
This ability is way too high in the tree. U are forced to break a good gear set to get the channel AND the BoG. The 30 grudge it costs are too high as IB already has problems getting grudge fast enough. 15 grudge is maybe a way but not sure it would be enough to make it an option.

I also have a question regarding the nerf of HB. Why ppl think it was OP and had to be nerfed? It is one of our very few abilities that deal dmg anyway.

All together it´s a big down for the IB for me.

To add to this, i think Balance Team did a great job at making Destro choose between BG or Blorc in oRvR, but it did not work for Order. After testing both SM and IB in WBs, there really is no reason to bring an IB over a SM if you can.

IB's best tool is the ability to buff both mdps in his party with Crit and Parry, but the problem is that ever since Rampage got changed, both factions do all their damage on contact now. The 12 seconds or so (counting the little bit of time you need to build Grudge) that it takes to buff both dps is too long. By the time you have it up, dmg drop is done for both sides so Crit Buff's value goes down and you only had Parry for one mdps. And if Order didn't break Destro on first contact then Destro is gonna come back with Morales (which is really overtuned with all the buffs to morale drain Destro classes), and the double Parry Buff you managed to apply doesn't do anything against that. And yeah, Blood of Grimnir doesn't really do anything besides its synergy with Watch An' Learn, Attack Speed buff is bad for oRvR and it takes took long to cast the spell, by the time its worth to spend a GCD on it the fight is over - or about to be, cuz you're gonna get Bellowed and M2 dropped by all the Maras while you're still halfway to your own M2.

SMs on the other hand have a lot of essential tools.

[Dackjanielz]

i would agree that the new ability probably is too expensive for what it does.
and lowering it in the tree wouldn't be the worst idea.

An idea id like to throw out there for Oathstone is instead of doing dmg [ because who cares about dmg as a tank anyway? ] maybe when it blocks it does some other beneficial effect.

Say i dunno, everytime you block your group m8s get healed a small amount or something.

I suppose Knights glory tree is still a bit of a mystery to me.
Maybe make Sunfury a bit better at what its doing.

[Emissary]

Loving the energy and ideas flying around here about the game changes. It's great to see everyone so involved. Quick heads up though: if you really want the balance team, especially Dalen, to dive deep into your suggestions, how about starting a dedicated feedback thread in the forum here ?

This thread is packed with great points, but they might get lost in the mix. A separate thread could help make sure your ideas get the spotlight they deserve.

Just a thought. Keep the ideas coming, and thanks for helping make the game better!

[hogun]

i would agree that the new ability probably is too expensive for what it does.
and lowering it in the tree wouldn't be the worst idea.

An idea id like to throw out there for Oathstone is instead of doing dmg [ because who cares about dmg as a tank anyway? ] maybe when it blocks it does some other beneficial effect.

Say i dunno, everytime you block your group m8s get healed a small amount or something.

I suppose Knights glory tree is still a bit of a mystery to me.
Maybe make Sunfury a bit better at what its doing.

brother, I've killed all my opponents with "Oathstone" - probably all the other IBs who know how to use this skill have done the same...

and considering my KDA, probably for an IB that's solo/small com it's a very good skill. juste look my video and you understand the mecanic but dont said who cares about dmg tank ... How many tank play with 2H ? i think its not for the skin !

[Dackjanielz]

i would agree that the new ability probably is too expensive for what it does.
and lowering it in the tree wouldn't be the worst idea.

An idea id like to throw out there for Oathstone is instead of doing dmg [ because who cares about dmg as a tank anyway? ] maybe when it blocks it does some other beneficial effect.

Say i dunno, everytime you block your group m8s get healed a small amount or something.

I suppose Knights glory tree is still a bit of a mystery to me.
Maybe make Sunfury a bit better at what its doing.

brother, I've killed all my opponents with "Oathstone" - probably all the other IBs who know how to use this skill have done the same...

and considering my KDA, probably for an IB that's solo/small com it's a very good skill. juste look my video and you understand the mecanic but dont said who cares about dmg tank ... How many tank play with 2H ? i think its not for the skin !

If they kept Oathstone the way it is i would be fine with that too.

[Ruin]

Think it has been mentions in some previous events but the current event item:
"- Advanced: Khaine’s Caress Event-slot item with career specific stats"
Only caters to some main class specs, to a degree. DPS heals can't receive Magic/Melee crit, this item is also pointless for Defensive Tanks with the Melee Crit and increase chance to be crited.

Please consider adding more choices to the classes/specializations.

[Hat]

haven't played in years but its nice to see that devs still have absolutely no idea about class balance whatsoever. the power of rampage was the only reason why order was relevant at all and chop fasta was the only reason you would bring choppas over maras Lol.