[WITCH ELF] amelioration

[Foxbeep]

I hate to post this tired response but
"Wait until T4"
Talented Witch Elves and Witch Hunters become some of the most dangerous players in the game

Ofc, if by talented you mean guarded and healed :^)

Lol it's a combination of the three just like every other MDPS

WEs and WHs can't be the exception just because they don't have charge lol

[Lileldys]

Solo killing healers is not your job this is a mistake many WE/WH make and they die for it allot. No good healer is going to die to a wh solo they will detaunt, cc, kite away. When a WH/WE tries this they are usually the only thing that dies so much can go wrong when your away from any kind of support on an mdps your 1 piece of cc away from being dead.

These classes especially WH will start to under preform in T4 due to their design as a squishy high damage assassin they are just sub par in groups, they are another MAD dependent class but unlike others the WH has no way of getting any weapon skill (the witch elf can be slightly ahead on this) to aide his other skills and as all their damage is positional they are going to suffer in a melee trail environment where all their damage is positional and they are prime targets due to light armour(again WE is slightly ahead due to better tactics and procs).

They don't need heaps of wep skill, seal of destruction/torment and the mirrors, WE also have witchbrew and puncture armor. Also they don't "start" to underperform in t4, they get MUCH better than they are currently.

You can become quite quite a threat to healers once you have outgoing and incoming healdebuff in conjuction with your KD and crit multi tactic, the problem is without self punt right now when they peel for you its all ogre.

Also what is up with WE's acting like 50% AA haste is the 2nd holocaust? Your daggers are as fast as 1.6 speed base? Swords/pistol are at best 2.0 speed usually 2.4? Also choppas can buff your AA speed.

I'm not a WE, but the 50% AA haste from IF doesn't decrease your damage from autos. The autos attack 50% faster. So a WH autos will hit for more damage at the same speed as witch elves strike with auto attacks.

[Atropik]

the WE is more likely a hit and run class with either huge front- or backloaded burst potential (higher burst peaks than the wh)

Why?

[TenTonHammer]

witch brew

puncture armor

[Foxbeep]

the WE is more likely a hit and run class with either huge front- or backloaded burst potential (higher burst peaks than the wh)

Why?

Class variation; WH can be played a lot more defensively than WE as well

[Atropik]

witch brew

puncture armor

U cannot take PA+WB, the same time Exit Wound provides much more damege then all WB procs taken together.

[Atropik]

Class variation; WH can be played a lot more defensively than WE as well

Why?

[bloodi]

U cannot take PA+WB, the same time Exit Wound provides much more damege then all WB procs taken together.

Puncture, the core skill, the one that ignores all armor when attacking from behind, not pierce armor.

I am also curious how come Exit wound does more overall damage that Witchbrew.

[Vdova]

Solo killing healers is not your job this is a mistake many WE/WH make and they die for it allot. No good healer is going to die to a wh solo they will detaunt, cc, kite away. When a WH/WE tries this they are usually the only thing that dies so much can go wrong when your away from any kind of support on an mdps your 1 piece of cc away from being dead.

These classes especially WH will start to under preform in T4 due to their design as a squishy high damage assassin they are just sub par in groups, they are another MAD dependent class but unlike others the WH has no way of getting any weapon skill (the witch elf can be slightly ahead on this) to aide his other skills and as all their damage is positional they are going to suffer in a melee trail environment where all their damage is positional and they are prime targets due to light armour(again WE is slightly ahead due to better tactics and procs).

They don't need heaps of wep skill, seal of destruction/torment and the mirrors, WE also have witchbrew and puncture armor. Also they don't "start" to underperform in t4, they get MUCH better than they are currently.

You can become quite quite a threat to healers once you have outgoing and incoming healdebuff in conjuction with your KD and crit multi tactic, the problem is without self punt right now when they peel for you its all ogre.

Also what is up with WE's acting like 50% AA haste is the 2nd holocaust? Your daggers are as fast as 1.6 speed base? Swords/pistol are at best 2.0 speed usually 2.4? Also choppas can buff your AA speed.

Wrong. Its shame, but at the end RvR weapons have all the same speed, doesnt matter if its sword, dagger or axe

[Tklees]

the WE is more likely a hit and run class with either huge front- or backloaded burst potential (higher burst peaks than the wh)

Why?

The burst peaks are reach due to abilities that involve a spec like such:
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=we; ... 1:;0:0:0:0:

This is the WE gank Spec and out of stealth you hit like a truck due to Masterful Trech. This can be combined with Puncture and Elixir of Insane Power to deliver some serious damage.

The WH on the other hand gets its highest burst from a spec as such:

http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=wh; ... 5:;0:0:0:0:

The burst would come from combining an Absolution finisher right as the last tick of Burn away lies goes combined with their Seal of Destruction. This is unreliable at best in top end PvP and why most WHs will run EW spec for the sure damage.