Destro Troll Comps.. err premades getting old?

[freshour]

LOL sorry, I didn't mean for that to go over your head lol. I meant those as examples not that order doesn't have them on their team haha. Ahh man, the Destro really are kinda ignorant here.

But nah I'm a competitor man, I like a good competition but no matter what I do I'll prolly not beat that comp for a while. My guild Nocturnal is pretty inactive during the EU hours, but at night it is easy mode beating this trolls. Wish some other EU order guilds could rise up to spank em.

[RyanMakara]

LOL sorry, I didn't mean for that to go over your head lol. I meant those as examples not that order doesn't have them on their team haha. Ahh man, the Destro really are kinda ignorant here.

It was more of a jab at your own phrasing (if you cared to proofread), now I must truly apologise for my lack of understanding such high-mannered semantics! ^^

Also, to note your ignorance towards my signature, which includes alts from both factions, I'm going to have to exclaim you're simply trolling here by constantly referring to Destruction as the ill-mannered PUG stompers, and thus the only people arguing against your premise. We already have a few people here like that on Order that loves to blame the other side for losing to them, rather than themselves.

[freshour]

Apology accepted

[DefinitelyNotWingz]

Wish some other EU order guilds could rise up to spank em.

yes please

[Tklees]

The group you posted is easily countered with a strong melee train. At the current meta rdps is at a disadvantage to mdps due to most rdps lacking the requisite skill to kite out the train, and overall hardship it can be due to aoe snares, roots, etc.

I understand your frustration and I main order, as well as others who have posted here, so the "destro biased" statement does not apply and is a weak argument when someone does not agree with you. I simply suggest you form a balanced group, 2 tanks, 2 dps, 2 heals and these types of "comps" wont be an issue for you.

And if order isn't running these "comps" doesn't the responsibility to make a change fall on them? As someone who says they are competitive, your team should be adapting thier tactics and strategy to go against whatever "comp" they face. Just some food for thought

[freshour]

Yeah I agree with what you're saying. In a perfect world, I'd fight that comp once, say hey who wants to stomp this range troll comp. Get a solid team, q back up, get them and destroy them.

In reality, order seems a little more chill and less serious as a whole. Sure there are some hard core pvp players, but even a lot of my guild has started to leave due to a weak NA presence. So being able to play in the morning with the EU guys I'm hoping there will be some organization in the near future.

If I had the time to learn a few different languages I'm sure I could solve all of my problems. I guess it didn't seem unrealistic to disable more than 3-4 of a class being in an sc especially since the 6v6's aren't a thing yet. A good melee train with some healers could run through all of that easily I agree, but q'ing order for prolly 2-4 hours every morning from 6-10 am eastern, order melee trains are few and far between. Hence why I swapped to a healer with aoe cleanse.

A lot of the vets in my guild who played on live said it would be a waste of time to post this, but seeing a great game in Neverwinter fall due to lack of balance, I'd love for this game to continue to grow. Obviously im qq'ing a bit as I can't form full balanced groups, and even having my 3 friends who are live veterans, there is only so much we can do vs comps like that given the resources at our disposal.

[Manolitow]

What about sc full of slayer spam 2 skill aoe and done double dmg of the first dps destro?
Lot of sc is full of kotb with slayer and wp... its hard for us too...

[th3gatekeeper]

I have to agree here... If this game had a population of even 10k+ normally, it would be much easier to find players to play with. Some of us are based in the NA and are trying to support and play this game with 200-300 ping average. Not only that, but during peak NA play times, populations are much lower making it hard to find good players to play with.

Most games I have played have put SOME measures to counter this type of thing. Usually when a came consists of things like this (stacking 2 classes) its considered a "Troll Comp" and usually discouraged. Heck in the previous game I played PVP was made of 5v5 and the community cared so much about being competitive and having competitive games it was SEVERELY frowned upon even to have TWO of the same class in a party since it was a rock paper scissors game (like WAR) if your comp had two of one class it was easy to overpower the other team based PURELY on team comp and nothing else.

So this is the same reflection I have with WAR. Its truly a Rock Paper Scissors game which is awesome, but all this means is if you get a "balanced" team of 5, but get matched with 5 PUGs who are class X (weak against class Y) and the enemy stacks 5 of class Y there is NO skill level you can have to overcome that. Which, again, is usually why games put "caps" on the number of classes to strive to create the most "balanced" PVP games possible.

If this game had a bigger population, I would agree some of these things would be sorted out themsevles but given the lack of population, it makes it very difficult to arrange a good melee train - especially when players swap sides to Destro if they get ran over by a troll comp as posted in the OP... I know that issue has been posted many times and there isnt much you can do about that.... But thats another issue I guess.

[Jaycub]

>destro premade
>1 tank in the entire SC and it's a BG

Spoiler:

Also incoming healdebuff is the single most important thing in the game you might want to que up with someone who has one.

[Gobtar]

In reality, order seems a little more chill and less serious as a whole. Sure there are some hard core pvp players, but even a lot of my guild has started to leave due to a weak NA presence. So being able to play in the morning with the EU guys I'm hoping there will be some organization in the near future.

I can name more serious order guilds in NA times than I can destro. IIRC Malice and M.R.P. have been on destro more because there is more Order groups thus more of a challenge.