Wrath WP, the hard life

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babanovac
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Re: Wrath WP, the hard life

Post#21 » Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:36 pm

Well i basically gave up.

Can't do ranked sc.
Can't roam.
Large scale was never an option.

So basically the Wrath WP is completely unplayable.

Guess i'll just check the patch notes every now and then to see if it's worth coming back. :(

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yoluigi
Posts: 490

Re: Wrath WP, the hard life

Post#22 » Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:10 pm

babanovac wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:36 pm Well i basically gave up.

Can't do ranked sc.
Can't roam.
Large scale was never an option.

So basically the Wrath WP is completely unplayable.

Guess i'll just check the patch notes every now and then to see if it's worth coming back. :(
I switched to grace i could almost do the same dps but with high block and unlimited heals. The only thing you dont have is the burst of Hammer of sigmar. They need to stack haste with guilty soul like that you could get an extra tactic. With most weapons having less dps than live means your auto attack build do alot less dmg. Making guilty soul work with white dmg would be nice.

The aoe warband play as wp 2h is extremely boring, you wont out dps people that does aoe dps and you dont put any debuff on people. This class should be buff/debuff for single target and self heal. They need to change abilities depending if you got a shield or 2h. Like Sigmar radiance been available but only self heal or Divine strike heals for 300% instead of 150% but only work for himself. (Remember as 2h you dont get the aoe 3 target dmg like shield)

Even with those change you would not outperform other class but atleast be average and be accepted in real premade as last resort.
Having a shield with 1000 str does almost do the same dps as 2h you can also proc your aura's faster because you hit faster and it's less punishable missing one attack.

In an sc as dps 2h i did 90k dmg 30k heals while my friend in Grace did 75k dmg 240k heals.
He probably could have equip Guilty soul himself and get 80-83k probably from the dot dmg.
When i go grace my performance is off the roof (bis gear) compare to Wrath which is under the aoe class and i dont put any kind of good debuff to support my group.
There really no advantage been 2h. Guilty soul only works for wrath abilities meaning the whole build work just around making good Smite and hammer of sigmar.
Other abilities dont benefit the 20% extra dmg (IF you get the 4 crit in a row)

arorwne
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Re: Wrath WP, the hard life

Post#23 » Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:28 pm

yoluigi wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:10 pm
babanovac wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:36 pm Well i basically gave up.

Can't do ranked sc.
Can't roam.
Large scale was never an option.

So basically the Wrath WP is completely unplayable.

Guess i'll just check the patch notes every now and then to see if it's worth coming back. :(
I switched to grace i could almost do the same dps but with high block and unlimited heals. The only thing you dont have is the burst of Hammer of sigmar. They need to stack haste with guilty soul like that you could get an extra tactic. With most weapons having less dps than live means your auto attack build do alot less dmg. Making guilty soul work with white dmg would be nice.

The aoe warband play as wp 2h is extremely boring, you wont out dps people that does aoe dps and you dont put any debuff on people. This class should be buff/debuff for single target and self heal. They need to change abilities depending if you got a shield or 2h. Like Sigmar radiance been available but only self heal or Divine strike heals for 300% instead of 150% but only work for himself. (Remember as 2h you dont get the aoe 3 target dmg like shield)

Even with those change you would not outperform other class but atleast be average and be accepted in real premade as last resort.
Having a shield with 1000 str does almost do the same dps as 2h you can also proc your aura's faster because you hit faster and it's less punishable missing one attack.

In an sc as dps 2h i did 90k dmg 30k heals while my friend in Grace did 75k dmg 240k heals.
He probably could have equip Guilty soul himself and get 80-83k probably from the dot dmg.
When i go grace my performance is off the roof (bis gear) compare to Wrath which is under the aoe class and i dont put any kind of good debuff to support my group.
There really no advantage been 2h. Guilty soul only works for wrath abilities meaning the whole build work just around making good Smite and hammer of sigmar.
Other abilities dont benefit the 20% extra dmg (IF you get the 4 crit in a row)
Wait, weapons have less dps than on live? All of them? By how much?

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Sinisterror
Posts: 1093

Re: Wrath WP, the hard life

Post#24 » Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:15 am

arorwne wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:28 pm
yoluigi wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:10 pm
babanovac wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:36 pm Well i basically gave up.

Can't do ranked sc.
Can't roam.
Large scale was never an option.

So basically the Wrath WP is completely unplayable.

Guess i'll just check the patch notes every now and then to see if it's worth coming back. :(
I switched to grace i could almost do the same dps but with high block and unlimited heals. The only thing you dont have is the burst of Hammer of sigmar. They need to stack haste with guilty soul like that you could get an extra tactic. With most weapons having less dps than live means your auto attack build do alot less dmg. Making guilty soul work with white dmg would be nice.

The aoe warband play as wp 2h is extremely boring, you wont out dps people that does aoe dps and you dont put any debuff on people. This class should be buff/debuff for single target and self heal. They need to change abilities depending if you got a shield or 2h. Like Sigmar radiance been available but only self heal or Divine strike heals for 300% instead of 150% but only work for himself. (Remember as 2h you dont get the aoe 3 target dmg like shield)

Even with those change you would not outperform other class but atleast be average and be accepted in real premade as last resort.
Having a shield with 1000 str does almost do the same dps as 2h you can also proc your aura's faster because you hit faster and it's less punishable missing one attack.

In an sc as dps 2h i did 90k dmg 30k heals while my friend in Grace did 75k dmg 240k heals.
He probably could have equip Guilty soul himself and get 80-83k probably from the dot dmg.
When i go grace my performance is off the roof (bis gear) compare to Wrath which is under the aoe class and i dont put any kind of good debuff to support my group.
There really no advantage been 2h. Guilty soul only works for wrath abilities meaning the whole build work just around making good Smite and hammer of sigmar.
Other abilities dont benefit the 20% extra dmg (IF you get the 4 crit in a row)
Wait, weapons have less dps than on live? All of them? By how much?
Before rr 100 patch max 1h dps was 66 and after rr 100 1h wpn was 70 dps im pretty sure. Dont remember 2h dps values. Fortress wpn is max here rite ? i think it's 57 dps
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arorwne
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Re: Wrath WP, the hard life

Post#25 » Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:54 am

Sinisterror wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:15 am
arorwne wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:28 pm
yoluigi wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:10 pm

I switched to grace i could almost do the same dps but with high block and unlimited heals. The only thing you dont have is the burst of Hammer of sigmar. They need to stack haste with guilty soul like that you could get an extra tactic. With most weapons having less dps than live means your auto attack build do alot less dmg. Making guilty soul work with white dmg would be nice.

The aoe warband play as wp 2h is extremely boring, you wont out dps people that does aoe dps and you dont put any debuff on people. This class should be buff/debuff for single target and self heal. They need to change abilities depending if you got a shield or 2h. Like Sigmar radiance been available but only self heal or Divine strike heals for 300% instead of 150% but only work for himself. (Remember as 2h you dont get the aoe 3 target dmg like shield)

Even with those change you would not outperform other class but atleast be average and be accepted in real premade as last resort.
Having a shield with 1000 str does almost do the same dps as 2h you can also proc your aura's faster because you hit faster and it's less punishable missing one attack.

In an sc as dps 2h i did 90k dmg 30k heals while my friend in Grace did 75k dmg 240k heals.
He probably could have equip Guilty soul himself and get 80-83k probably from the dot dmg.
When i go grace my performance is off the roof (bis gear) compare to Wrath which is under the aoe class and i dont put any kind of good debuff to support my group.
There really no advantage been 2h. Guilty soul only works for wrath abilities meaning the whole build work just around making good Smite and hammer of sigmar.
Other abilities dont benefit the 20% extra dmg (IF you get the 4 crit in a row)
Wait, weapons have less dps than on live? All of them? By how much?
Before rr 100 patch max 1h dps was 66 and after rr 100 1h wpn was 70 dps im pretty sure. Dont remember 2h dps values. Fortress wpn is max here rite ? i think it's 57 dps
Wow, that's almost 15%! Wonder whether it applies to all weapons, low level ones included or merely to creme de la creme. Wouldn't be surprised if it was the latter option, but it don't hurt to ask, does it?

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yoluigi
Posts: 490

Re: Wrath WP, the hard life

Post#26 » Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:17 pm

arorwne wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:54 am
Sinisterror wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:15 am
arorwne wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:28 pm

Wait, weapons have less dps than on live? All of them? By how much?
Before rr 100 patch max 1h dps was 66 and after rr 100 1h wpn was 70 dps im pretty sure. Dont remember 2h dps values. Fortress wpn is max here rite ? i think it's 57 dps
Wow, that's almost 15%! Wonder whether it applies to all weapons, low level ones included or merely to creme de la creme. Wouldn't be surprised if it was the latter option, but it don't hurt to ask, does it?
Everything had higher dps ubgrade if i remember from 2h 75 dps 85, 95 , and sov was like 105 dps (for 2h)

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