Weekly Event Scenario -observations & changes needed

[Rapzel]

Played 19 scs, won all of them, on Order. Your point is?

P.S Oh yeah I played with my friends.

[mickeye]

Played 19 scs, won all of them, on Order. Your point is?

P.S Oh yeah I played with my friends.

Cheater! Real order hero queue alone on his rdps. Not cool man, not cool.

[Akalukz]

Don't blame one side or the other as it happens on both. Blame the devs for a terrible matching system of filling opponents of premades with pugs. They can fix the queuer if they want, they have no desire to do so. Who would all the premades (those saying it's fine) fight, surely not each other as seen by the 0 pop of premade ranked.

[abezverkhiy]

This is a strong statement and disrespectful of devs who are a small team of enthusiasts doing a superb job. Unless you can do it better please spare such rethoric.

However, there's something I do agree with you. If you're unhappy with the state of scenario matching pugs vs premades just stop playing scenarios. That's what I did until the moment matching system is properly adjusted. There are other parts of the game I do enjoy and I see no reason wasting my time on generating renown and emblems for Destro premades if I am not a part of one.

And be respectful of people who brought Warhammer from dead free of charge.

[Akalukz]

This is a strong statement and disrespectful of devs who are a small team of enthusiasts doing a superb job. Unless you can do it better please spare such rethoric.

However, there's something I do agree with you. If you're unhappy with the state of scenario matching pugs vs premades just stop playing scenarios. That's what I did until the moment matching system is properly adjusted. There are other parts of the game I do enjoy and I see no reason wasting my time on generating renown and emblems for Destro premades if I am not a part of one.

And be respectful of people who brought Warhammer from dead free of charge.

Agreed, it's a small team and they do a fantastic job. I enjoy RvR a lot, Lvl 40+ scenario's not so much. Bu tthat's my issue, the game offers plenty outside of scenarios.

[Meliannia]

this is not a post about premades vs pugs,
obviously premades are gonna queue event scen

it's about the CHOICE of event scen type that is taken every week, and if king of the hill was knocked on the head or limited to a fairer distribution of 1 week out of every 3 we would have more competitive scenarios and the losing team would still try to the end and get rewards for still trying and contributing.

I see weekend event scen this weekend coming is YET AGAIN destro bias King of the hill, so this will be more 95% destro win and 75% 500-0s with utter waste of time for losing team.
this is exactly the point im making.

[Detangler]

Quick history of Matchmaker:

1. Matchmaker makes a scenario as soon as 6 on each side queue. Makes a check for this every few minutes or something like that. Tries to balance if possible first, but throws all players in if no better choices.

2. Population complains that matches aren't fair.

3. Devs change matchmaker so it only starts once both sides have at least one 2 2 2, then fills only if both sides have 2 2 2.

3. Population complains that match times are too slow. Mostly cause too many DPS classes are left in the cold.

4. Devs revert to our current system.


Question for you forum coders: what do you think should happen if both sides get healer scenario pops, but only one side takes the queue. Should you leave the space vacant until another healer type hits queue, possibly leaving them down a few players for a few minutes? Or should you fill with whatever is available and at least give them a fighting chance?

[emiliorv]

I see weekend event scen this weekend coming is YET AGAIN destro bias King of the hill,

Destro bias?? players must fight in a pvp game...all these running flags scs should dissapear

[Meliannia]

detangler, again plz read im not talking about the matchmaking or the set up or premades vs pugs im talking about the scenario TYPE being chosen for weekend event scens being predominately King of the hill

there are 3 types of event scen King od hill, multiple bases, flag runs) logic dictates each type should appear 33% of the time for the event scen but at present its king of the hill 80% of the time, , multiple bases 10% and flag run 10%, and when king of the hill heavily favours destro melee ball centre zerg and satay there all game famring, it aint right or fair.

the game, order, players who enjoy more competitive closer games, and fair minded people would benefit from a more even distribution of weekend scen event types.

1 week event scen is multiple base eg Logain forge
next week king of hill eg tol amroc
next week flag run eg talabac dam
next week multiple bases eg altdorf war quarters
next week king of hill eg mounkain temple
next week flag run eg phoenix gate


simple to do, and much fairer

[Detangler]

detangler, again plz read im not talking about the matchmaking or the set up or premades vs pugs im talking about the scenario TYPE being chosen for weekend event scens being predominately King of the hill

there are 3 types of event scen King od hill, multiple bases, flag runs) logic dictates each type should appear 33% of the time for the event scen but at present its king of the hill 80% of the time, , multiple bases 10% and flag run 10%, and when king of the hill heavily favours destro melee ball centre zerg and satay there all game famring, it aint right or fair.

the game, order, players who enjoy more competitive closer games, and fair minded people would benefit from a more even distribution of weekend scen event types.

1 week event scen is multiple base eg Logain forge
next week king of hill eg tol amroc
next week flag run eg talabac dam
next week multiple bases eg altdorf war quarters
next week king of hill eg mounkain temple
next week flag run eg phoenix gate


simple to do, and much fairer

Weird how the order players that form a premade have no issues with completing events, despite whatever comp they bring or type of scenario.