Patch Notes 12/01/2019

[Sulorie]

Fill all the roles? Where are the tank and heal specced WHs?

...can't...

[ragafury]

what I don't get is: why even bother adding a drain or some form of morale manipulation to WH / WE.
I mean pugWBs / WHs / WEs gonna be happy, so they can pretend they contribute to the fight, but in the end it's a meaningless change.

nontheless, seems like a better patch, just because it has the potential to shake the meta maybe a bit upside down.

will see how it goes.

[nebelwerfer]

amazing!

[Ridduk]

Not in patchnotes, but: no more renown for healing? ;s

Brilliant!

Verified this yes? Or you always take random words from strangers on the internet as gospel?

No and no but no one refuted it after 7 pages either.

[Xergon]

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

no, you can forget "aoe wh/we"

Why?

Because?

Because you dont get to do everything, you cant fill all roles, you cant have stealth, the capacity to cut the head off a strategic snake and stand at the front line of a "warband" dropping aoe spam at 3x the damage of a slayers flurry

Its not happening, its not a discussion, it is a dead parrot

So you are comparing AoE Slayer with AoE WH (pre-reverted AoE changes) ? AoE Slayer was still better with ID, with Retribution, RecklesGamble procs, with Rampage and ShatterLimbs. WH was only getting close to provide some similar damage to what Slayer could, and what are we comparing Light Armor class with Medium Armor class ? On top of that AoE WH had 3 AoE abilities while Slayer has 7 ?
We should actually compare it to other Light Armor class like BW/Sorc which both (Sorc more than BW) can provide huge amount of AoE damage from range, where WH/WE to do any kind of damage actually has to go into melee range fight where you gonna get affected by every AoE damage or debuff.
WH/WE has Stealth, cool but it doesn't provide anything meaningful for WB vs WB fight in RvR. Even if you use Stealth you will still get affected by AoE debuffs or damage if you will get too close (and you want to stay at least in 30ft range of your guard). Only one of last patches helped with allowing using ShroudOfMagus in Stealth but stripped from AoE, even if you manage to reach enemy backline then what ? You gonna focus ST enemy 1 by 1 ?

If you really think that AoE Razor/Slice was doing too much damage (which i highly doubt it did) then why not simply turn numbers down on it ?


"You cant fill all roles" well somehow Slayer and Marauder filling all roles perfectly fine...

Which part of not a discussion did you miss? and I dont see slayers stealthing up and assassinating back line players. Give it up, warnings will be issued from this point on

[Dammy095]

there indeed was no renown for healing right after update, but it was fixed later
not sure if numbers are same or not , but at least its back

[Natherul]

Stuff like removing healing from getting rr is not something on the table and if not mentioned in the notes it should be assumed to be a bug and should be on the bugtracker with as much information as possible.

I was away for most of yesterday due to being in an exam but reading up on things we had an unforseen error that happened that may have been a cause of the issue that should hopefully be resolved by now. But again I stress that if something drastic changes and is not documented on the patch notes its most likely a bug and should be treated and reported as such.

[Toldavf]

Spoiler:

Why?

Because?

Because you dont get to do everything, you cant fill all roles, you cant have stealth, the capacity to cut the head off a strategic snake and stand at the front line of a "warband" dropping aoe spam at 3x the damage of a slayers flurry

Its not happening, its not a discussion, it is a dead parrot

So you are comparing AoE Slayer with AoE WH (pre-reverted AoE changes) ? AoE Slayer was still better with ID, with Retribution, RecklesGamble procs, with Rampage and ShatterLimbs. WH was only getting close to provide some similar damage to what Slayer could, and what are we comparing Light Armor class with Medium Armor class ? On top of that AoE WH had 3 AoE abilities while Slayer has 7 ?
We should actually compare it to other Light Armor class like BW/Sorc which both (Sorc more than BW) can provide huge amount of AoE damage from range, where WH/WE to do any kind of damage actually has to go into melee range fight where you gonna get affected by every AoE damage or debuff.
WH/WE has Stealth, cool but it doesn't provide anything meaningful for WB vs WB fight in RvR. Even if you use Stealth you will still get affected by AoE debuffs or damage if you will get too close (and you want to stay at least in 30ft range of your guard). Only one of last patches helped with allowing using ShroudOfMagus in Stealth but stripped from AoE, even if you manage to reach enemy backline then what ? You gonna focus ST enemy 1 by 1 ?

If you really think that AoE Razor/Slice was doing too much damage (which i highly doubt it did) then why not simply turn numbers down on it ?


"You cant fill all roles" well somehow Slayer and Marauder filling all roles perfectly fine...

Mara isn't a stealth solo ganker. In fact it's solo dps specs are kinda aweful.

[Orontes]

Could there be an explanation on why so many M2 abilities were reverted to their Live status: "Roiling Winds, Squig Goo, Flying Axe, Flames of Fate and Ensnare have original damage functions and ranges as per live." Doing 900 in one shot was so much more effective. The parsed out 300 over time feels ineffective and underwhelming.

[Xergon]

btw, with all these Morale changes, do people even are aware of how much Morale meta favors destro ?