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[Black Orc] Talk bout da builds ere.

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TenTonHammer
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Re: [Black Orc] Talk bout da builds ere.

Post#101 » Thu Mar 03, 2016 4:00 pm

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Re: [Black Orc] Talk bout da builds ere.

Post#102 » Mon Mar 14, 2016 2:08 am

I'm running 2h boundless brawler spec, using SYG!, Great Weapon, and Gork Smash tactics. Full duelist gear, str slotted, 26 str jewels. Renown is pure crit, rest parry, some disrupt.

Running as main/secondary DPS in our guild (assisting our WE), with a tank guarding. Very fun to play.

http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=bo; ... :;0:0:0:0:
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Re: [Black Orc] Talk bout da builds ere.

Post#103 » Mon Mar 14, 2016 2:33 am

real talk peter how often do you get puddle of muck up? and arm breka is really weak as well
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Re: [Black Orc] Talk bout da builds ere.

Post#104 » Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:01 am

I just put all points into Brawler to max out damage on THC/Skull thumper tbh. Only ever really use M1.
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Re: [Black Orc] Talk bout da builds ere.

Post#105 » Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:02 pm

Why do people hate on arm breaka? It's pretty **** BUT it is pretty much free AP drain if you got a point to blow, definitely better than +3 ini steal and dmg scaling imo. I mean you got other no plan abilities that will take priority but you will eventually have an opputunity to use this to some effect.

What if it's CD was changed to 5 seconds or removed?

Spoiler:
how many abilities does BO have that you guys consider unusable?

>Keep it going / Mor hardcore (destroyed by the CC immunity patch)
>We'z Bigger (pots)
>Waaaagh (corp resist debuff that I am assuming doesn't stack with aura, who deals corp damage on destro anyways? and its 13 points lol)
>Can't Hit Me (13 point ability that is only good for defending choke points, and a oh **** button for a class that is never going to get targeted over anyone else. I guess it's good for ORvR but it really should just be core, 13 point really hurts it)
>Dat was great (until it stacks with other toughness debuffs it is trash)
>you got nothin (burst meta)
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Shadowgurke
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Re: [Black Orc] Talk bout da builds ere.

Post#106 » Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:05 pm

I curently use arm breaka. Nothing extraordinary but probably worth the 2 or 3 points of stat steal
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Re: [Black Orc] Talk bout da builds ere.

Post#107 » Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:12 pm

Jaycub wrote:Why do people hate on arm breaka? It's pretty **** BUT it is pretty much free AP drain if you got a point to blow, definitely better than +3 ini steal and dmg scaling imo.

What if it's CD was changed to 5 seconds or removed?
Every point you don't put into the progression of the tree, is damage/healing lost. "Wasting" points on abilities like Arm Breaka is why it's considered bad: It's not worth the loss. Compared to other AP-drains it's simply not up to par.

Funny thing is, Arm Breaka is still better than the SM version.

Also, the fact that you also have to keep Follow Me Lead and Wot Armor up, makes Arm Breaka only being used very rarely.
In other words, it's cd might as well have been higher, and it wouldn't have made much, if any, difference.

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Re: [Black Orc] Talk bout da builds ere.

Post#108 » Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:18 pm

50 AP lost every 10 seconds can hurt, if the target is having any kind of AP problems that like denying them 1 cast every 10 seconds. Or that's how I see it anyways. The TTK in pretty much any decent fight in CW/6v6 is going to be long enough for this to actually come into play as well.

Also how is SM version worse, they look like identical abilities just with different wording?
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Re: [Black Orc] Talk bout da builds ere.

Post#109 » Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:25 pm

Armbreaker would have been fine if it was just a 50 AP drain immediately. Change the CD to 15 or 20 seconds accordingly.

Walk it off is pretty solid Morale for a 2h BO as it stacks toughness buffs and has a 50% uptime and helps your whole party.


Story time: On live, we were goofing around with 4 (2xSnB, 2x2h) BOs cycling Walk it off so they have +320 100% of the time (the morale stacked with itself on live, not sure about ROR). A healing shaman that had the heal debuff, and a Dok cause reasons. With taking turns on right in da jibblies and taunts, and silences on other healers we would be able to kill healer lines and then mop up...TTK wasn't fast enough vs a dedicated Slayer group though :( Still was hilarious.
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Re: [Black Orc] Talk bout da builds ere.

Post#110 » Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:35 pm

IDK about walk it off, it's alright but I mean it doesn't have the impact of say distracting bellow and denies the ability to use the powerful tank m1's which can be huge to securing a kill.

Only time I use it is if **** is about to hit the fan for the group, but I don't have m3/4 up.

but I could be closed minded about it, and just not seeing some other advantage it has.
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