mathematically speaking we do have a balance problem

[emiliorv]

That SS shows the core of the balance issue - Stacking a certain class to ensure greater chance of winning. A top premade stacking Slayers and WLs to win (which makes sense to do in the current state of the game).

Where's all the WHs, BW's, SWs (melee and ranged), melee WP's and the rest of the engies? I've been told that all the top premades use them....

#makeallclassesviableinengamecontent

And what shows this other ss?? destro stacking choppas+maras => stacking "meta" classes is a thing in both factions...
in this SS you see:
-both factions stacking meta classes (looks like they missing 1 mSH and also running 1 shield dok)
-both factions guild wbs.
but order stomped destro (22kills vs 381kills)

[Sulorie]

Where's all the WHs, BW's, SWs (melee and ranged), melee WP's and the rest of the engies? I've been told that all the top premades use them....

#makeallclassesviableinengamecontent

No need to make melee wp viable for city siege or warband fights. The class itself is already viable, because there are different spec options.
All others find their spot like their destro counterparts with the restriction not to overstack rdps in city siege.

[Banjomissen]

Where's all the WHs, BW's, SWs (melee and ranged), melee WP's and the rest of the engies? I've been told that all the top premades use them....

#makeallclassesviableinengamecontent

No need to make melee wp viable for city siege or warband fights. The class itself is already viable, because there are different spec options.
All others find their spot like their destro counterparts with the restriction not to overstack rdps in city siege.

Never been in a premade with a melee WP who wasn't grace and then technically a healer.

Not overstack rdps? Like the tup WB only using 1 rdps (to not miss out on a champ?).

Every solution to Orders issues with winning cities, scenarios and such seems to come back to: Get more slayers.

[Banjomissen]

double post

[Banjomissen]

And what shows this other ss?? destro stacking choppas+maras => stacking "meta" classes is a thing in both factions...
in this SS you see:
-both factions stacking meta classes (looks like they missing 1 mSH and also running 1 shield dok)
-both factions guild wbs.
but order stomped destro (22kills vs 381kills)

Doesn't matter if it's Order or Destro you stupid troll - All classes should have a role in every aspect of the game (Why would you have so different skill tree's if they shouldn't serve a different purpose or playstyle).

[emiliorv]

And what shows this other ss?? destro stacking choppas+maras => stacking "meta" classes is a thing in both factions...
in this SS you see:
-both factions stacking meta classes (looks like they missing 1 mSH and also running 1 shield dok)
-both factions guild wbs.
but order stomped destro (22kills vs 381kills)

Doesn't matter if it's Order or Destro you stupid troll - All classes should have a role in every aspect of the game (Why would you have so different skill tree's if they shouldn't serve a different purpose or playstyle).

chill down mate and take the 12 o'clock pill

[Foltestik]

And what shows this other ss?? destro stacking choppas+maras => stacking "meta" classes is a thing in both factions...
in this SS you see:
-both factions stacking meta classes (looks like they missing 1 mSH and also running 1 shield dok)
-both factions guild wbs.
but order stomped destro (22kills vs 381kills)

Doesn't matter if it's Order or Destro you stupid troll - All classes should have a role in every aspect of the game (Why would you have so different skill tree's if they shouldn't serve a different purpose or playstyle).

this is bullshit, you have spec to specialize self for warband scenarios or roam... its not working like you spec same **** and wanna it work on every aspect of game

[Foltestik]

and btw melee Wp work in city, ofc not again top warbands ...

[Banjomissen]

this is bullshit, you have spec to specialize self for warband scenarios or roam... its not working like you spec same **** and wanna it work on every aspect of game

That's exactly what i'm saying: Why shouldn't every class have a spec that is desired for every aspect of the game?

Why should you be penalized for bringing a certain amount of certain classes / archtype and be rewarded for primarily stacking one or two classes?

Melee WP in city? Been queueing exclusively as Order for the past month (city) and only see melee WPS (not grace) in a city when it was a pure pug.

[puzzolamistica]

Hahaha from where you pulled that numbers??

if u are not able to read tactics from your own faction is your brain problem, not mine,
learn to read then u could try to learn how to do math and then maybe write

Im able, and i know that there are 2 classes that have that kind of morale pump => but you are talking about "DESTRO MORALE PUMP"...so its false. stop spread missingformation.

brain damaged forum warrior spotted.
no flame of course!
my topic incipit is obviusly a bit troll but what i wrote is something that shold be considered to improve the gamplay experience from both side.