bro I’ll upset you, but you published it in 2020, and I saw this assembly in 2019, sorry, but you didn’t come up with it, if you really want, I can find the video from which I took itZxul wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:31 amviewtopic.php?t=39590
For that matter, I'm also the one that came up with WE RA build, later adopted as WH DG/TBP build.
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Thing is, currently for WH both DG/TBP, and as far as I understand absospam build, were nerfed ( https://bugs.returnofreckoning.com/view.php?id=21362 the absospam nerf). DG/TBP still does some dmg, but there is a reason why there are less WHs roaming. So trying to see if there is some possible alt build, I however don't have a WH so can't test it.
Same for WE as well btw, though WE don't have a Bullet build but have the Witchbrew. I do have a 80 WE, tested several possible non Witchbrew builds, but currently only RA build will do comparable dmg to Witchbrew, and that with much more str/ws requirements just to do the same dmg. WE is currently based all around Witchbrew- should it be nerfed, the class will become very average.
Edit: also I wonder about another version of this spec, https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 7,526,8135
Here the idea is to use Prolonged Confession to have both BAL and Jagged Edge permanently running on target, with also 5 points critted Absolution once every 10 sec or so. Or another possibility, once BAL is running, to use Absolution as every second attack, for extra Bullet dmg.
[WH] A different Absolution spec.
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Re: [WH] A different Absolution spec.
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Re: [WH] A different Absolution spec.
https://youtu.be/uIiGNwJ2Npg?si=iDeuq0fdonl7YwBl
you probably saw his video and decided to make a similar build, but his build is really better and I just added perfect timing and gameplay to this build, after which it became so popular
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WE - Witchrage 80+
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Re: [WH] A different Absolution spec.
Well, I already explained and showed why, unfortunately, it wasn’t you
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Re: [WH] A different Absolution spec.
If he came up with a similar build then he hasn't posted it, except I guess in that video. Not sure where he posted the video though, since back when I came up with the idea and made the forum post the build was unknown. Back then WH was considered an underpowered class, since without Bullet or DG/TBP builds WHs don't have that many options.
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Re: [WH] A different Absolution spec.
this is krego and he highlighted this video and assembly and by the way, your version has very little to do with the topic, what actually works you didn’t talk about the 50% finisher tactics, without which this build basically won’t work, about healing from bullets, etc. what can we say, TbP was considered a very weak ability, until I clearly showed how to use it, many wrote to me why I use it at all...Zxul wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:38 pmIf he came up with a similar build then he hasn't posted it, except I guess in that video. Not sure where he posted the video though, since back when I came up with the idea and made the forum post the build was unknown. Back then WH was considered an underpowered class, since without Bullet or DG/TBP builds WHs don't have that many options.
in any case, kregon is the first person to publish this build, albeit with an imperfect game and minor glitches, but in the end it was brought to perfection
WH - mdpv 80+
WE - Witchrage 80+
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Re: [WH] A different Absolution spec.
About 50% finisher tactic and healing from bullets, so I guess you didn't actually read anything besides the first post, since the very first build which I linked in the thread has both lol.reynor007 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 2:24 pmthis is krego and he highlighted this video and assembly and by the way, your version has very little to do with the topic, what actually works you didn’t talk about the 50% finisher tactics, without which this build basically won’t work, about healing from bullets, etc. what can we say, TbP was considered a very weak ability, until I clearly showed how to use it, many wrote to me why I use it at all...Zxul wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:38 pmIf he came up with a similar build then he hasn't posted it, except I guess in that video. Not sure where he posted the video though, since back when I came up with the idea and made the forum post the build was unknown. Back then WH was considered an underpowered class, since without Bullet or DG/TBP builds WHs don't have that many options.
in any case, kregon is the first person to publish this build, albeit with an imperfect game and minor glitches, but in the end it was brought to perfection
About TBP, read the other thread which I linked, where I posted back in 2020 how the RA works with armor pen tactic. Then followed by Krima starting using the build, and getting to 3 top WE in ranked with it, then more WEs speccing around it. And eventually WHs going for their version as well.
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Re: [WH] A different Absolution spec.
i would not run a build like this.. makes 0 sense, unfunctional even. just spec BAL if you're going to put so many points in to the tree.
you can run "abso spam" build without even actually speccing in to it if you have decent gear. playing standard BAL (or even DG) in bis gives around 35-40% crit chance and with 15% crit damage bonus from sov set bonus and 50% crit damage bonus fanatical cleansing gives you your modern day "abso spam" build where you can hinge on flowing accusation procs to attempt to spam absolution with no need for atonement and no need for gimping your overall build.
you can run "abso spam" build without even actually speccing in to it if you have decent gear. playing standard BAL (or even DG) in bis gives around 35-40% crit chance and with 15% crit damage bonus from sov set bonus and 50% crit damage bonus fanatical cleansing gives you your modern day "abso spam" build where you can hinge on flowing accusation procs to attempt to spam absolution with no need for atonement and no need for gimping your overall build.
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Re: [WH] A different Absolution spec.
I can't say anything about WE, maybe you really did that build I just know who made the def WE build, probably the most popular build after regen WH, again, I’m partly to blame for this but I can say for sure that you are definitely not the first to post an assembly about regen WHZxul wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 2:48 pm
About 50% finisher tactic and healing from bullets, so I guess you didn't actually read anything besides the first post, since the very first build which I linked in the thread has both lol.
About TBP, read the other thread which I linked, where I posted back in 2020 how the RA works with armor pen tactic. Then followed by Krima starting using the build, and getting to 3 top WE in ranked with it, then more WEs speccing around it. And eventually WHs going for their version as well.
even under your post, you were shown a video of cagucmka, who used this build long before you wrote about it Moreover, the build options that you showed there look frankly very weak, I doubt that it was even a competitive build
in fact, in your post you yourself admitted that you had already seen this assembly, you just assumed what it might look like pretty much the same way people copied the def WE build
WH - mdpv 80+
WE - Witchrage 80+
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Re: [WH] A different Absolution spec.
lol dude, he said 3 times that he invented this build, I gave facts why this is not so and lol, I'm not saying that this is my build, I don't care who came up with it, I just played as I liked and showed it offwinteryseeker wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 6:58 pm who cares about who "invented" a spec?
oh right raynor cares....
gosh, glad we have him around
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WE - Witchrage 80+
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