Are BWs obsolete?

[covenn]

Outside of liking the class or nostalgia, is there any real reason to play a BW (or Sorc for that matter?) ? The disrupt changes combined with the combustion mechanic seem like running a SW would be better in every circumstance open world or in scenarios. They do everything as good, if not better, without blowing themselves up and creating more healer load in the process.

I understand why the combustion mechanic is what it is and the need during the live game, but with the changes here, it seems like it should probably be revisited.

[covenn]

I main a RP fwiw

[Nameless]

On plus side there is no more cw so mdps and rdps should be much easier targets.

[BrockRiefenstahl]

I play a BW atm lvl 35. Without good gear in SCs you are a poor poor training dummy. I think it will be better in full gear with some disrupt reduction, but that is FAR away. I also play WE and I felt bad for BWs honestly. I thought maybe they are so terrible gameplaywise (the players), and then I rolled a BW myself.
Now that I have seen it from the other side, it is really like that. In a PuG you are Victim N1 (especially with all enemies constantly having immunities against the few ccs that I have), also the massive Destru melee/tanktrains in SCs are nightmare, it is the WORST class that I leveled in RvR/SC (PuG) (Sidenote: WE/WH is the worst for PvE haha).

The combustion backdraft is really punishing if you have to recast dots and debuffs so many times. + the change for free instant proccs, makes it even worse.
Since the change, it feels like everyone and their mum specs full Deft Defender.
Would be interesting, if the top BWs could argument from a standpoint of NOT BiS geared BW gameplay, especially without a premade and constant guard/heals.

I still have some fun if RnGesus is on my side, but overall, it was much easier with other class especially in SCs I have trouble as BW. At least I got the Annihilator set now, havent tested it yet.

[cimator]

They do everything as good, if not better, without blowing themselves up and creating more healer load in the process.

No. SW damage isnt even close to BW rotations, and you have tools to deal with high disrupt, it isnt much of a problem Imo.

[Nameless]

Aboute orders full range setups without any mdps and only few tanks is a real problem when facing milions maras, bos, bgs but that is not bw weakness rather realm balance issue. Sorcs doing pretty fine with solid frontline

[Warfare80]

Aboute orders full range setups without any mdps and only few tanks is a real problem when facing milions maras, bos, bgs but that is not bw weakness rather realm balance issue. Sorcs doing pretty fine with solid frontline

THIS is the main problem if you ask me.

[dansari]

BWs are the strongest single target damage dealing class in the game right now, probably, with the right setup. If you're leveling you may not have all the tools yet, but basically Flashfire, Burn Through, Fuel to the Fire, and the int increase. You can melt pretty much anything in pugs.

SWs provide more consistent damage but have no burst in comparison, and burst is what kills targets.

[TenTonHammer]

If BW's are now suddenly obsolete then why are there still so many on order?

People want to act like the disrupt changes where so massive disaster for BW's but the fact of the matter was that it was basically a straight buff for how it became even easier to proc flashfire


Thank god the devs rein'd it in some by adding the 6s icd

Lets be real and not pretend otherwise, even with the DoT changes RDPS still run the show

[Nameless]

Lets be real and not pretend otherwise, even with the DoT changes RDPS still run the show

Nope not at pug scs without solid frontline rdps are pretty much doomed