I sincerely hope the people calling for a buff are trolling.
1. Festerbombing was nerfed because no ability should 1 shot anyone. Unshakeable focus is still one of the strongest morals in the game.
2. Heal debuff moved to be in line with other classes. In a tree you have to go up anyway to get tactic.
3. Aoe doesn't kill people... Strong single target burst does. If aoe dps was the standard for a buff I'd be screaming BUFF DRAGON GUN!! But alas it is not. Load up your dots, and then SFA away. KD healers before detaunt/use of m2.
4. An rdps that dies in the melee pit? You have 100ft range for a reason. Use it. If caught pop assault, self punt, m1 cleanse and gtfo
5. You shouldn't leave skirm except for above use of assault stance.
Hope this clarifies things.
SW weakest class?
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Re: SW weakest class?
As far as my knowledge goes this post is helpful. SWs have a great toolkit and are scary as fook when on form.Lileldys wrote: 1.) Nerf was needed, at 5pts, it's too strong. Most of the other dps get theirs at 9pts+.
2.) Weak AoE is an issue right now, but at R40 they get Lileath's Arrow.
3.) Switch to Assault Stance and detaunt, then self punt, flee, get a guard and heals if all that fails. Keep your target at near max range when dpsing. Prekite, dont just stand there like a muppet. You have the tools to keep dps away.
4.) Not really an issue.
They're currently a strong class as they're hard to catch when played well, solid dps with an easy access heal debuff(No cooldown, needs only an ailment)
Edit: Missed the top. If you are still festerbombing, maybe thats your issue. Scout is too stand still to be effective. Also the 2 new tactics and new skill SW get are insanely strong if you are a good kiter
I'd suggest keeping an eye out for good SWs in scenarios/RvR then ask them for some Q&A time, I find that is always really helpful when starting a class

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Re: SW weakest class?
yeah i know war is no singleplayer game whatsoever...
As sw you can be pretty good at dueling most other classes in a 1 vs 1, especially when you have a bit defensive build.
your dots tick like hell if you combine them with the dot tactic/+25%dmg /+50%krit.
its right that you may not have the burst of a sorc/BW, but once your dots are on the target it will be rolled and smoked.
As sw you can be pretty good at dueling most other classes in a 1 vs 1, especially when you have a bit defensive build.
your dots tick like hell if you combine them with the dot tactic/+25%dmg /+50%krit.
its right that you may not have the burst of a sorc/BW, but once your dots are on the target it will be rolled and smoked.
Re: SW weakest class?
Skirmish is what you use in general and occasionally scout for armor debuff and assault, when you need more defense.
In t4 with 40/60 you will switch to scout to finish a target.
In t4 with 40/60 you will switch to scout to finish a target.
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Re: SW weakest class?
1 shot? U know u need to have moral 2 up, us it, use VON and Steady Aim wile arrow is flying. So that are 4 Abilitys, u need to get M2 use it that is 1.1 sec gcd + 3 sec FA fast + 1 sec fly time (maybe less) that is around 5 sec for around 5k dmg, u want to tell me sorc/bw cant do same dmg in 5 sec?Tklees wrote: 1. Festerbombing was nerfed because no ability should 1 shot anyone. Unshakeable focus is still one of the strongest morals in the game.
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Re: SW weakest class?
Paps the problem with festerbomb wasn't that it "didn't require any bulidup," it obviously did.
The problem was there was simply no counterplay. Healers can't heal an instashot death, nor could a target "see the burst" incoming and prepare a defense (shield wall, bubble, morale, detaunt)
For the target it was often "I'm alive" and then "I'm dead."
I don't think SW is weak at all, I love mine and I wreak hell with her.
SW is a strong class in skirmish spec.
The big big big big problem with SW is that they're a strong class in ONLY skirmish spec.
Scout has its bright moments but right now is completely unappealing compared to skirmish and assault is still terrible in comparison as far as I've been able to test. I haven't gotten to 35 yet, been far too busy to put in the hours, but unless instinctive aim and access to Shadow Sting and No Respite with the mastery points of the new caps has changed things dramatically Assault can't compare to skirmish.
With hope the devs will give assault a look sometime during t3 but I'd be willing to wager it waits until t4. Scout gets objectively stronger in t4 so hopefully assault gets a nice long stare down
The problem was there was simply no counterplay. Healers can't heal an instashot death, nor could a target "see the burst" incoming and prepare a defense (shield wall, bubble, morale, detaunt)
For the target it was often "I'm alive" and then "I'm dead."
I don't think SW is weak at all, I love mine and I wreak hell with her.
SW is a strong class in skirmish spec.
The big big big big problem with SW is that they're a strong class in ONLY skirmish spec.
Scout has its bright moments but right now is completely unappealing compared to skirmish and assault is still terrible in comparison as far as I've been able to test. I haven't gotten to 35 yet, been far too busy to put in the hours, but unless instinctive aim and access to Shadow Sting and No Respite with the mastery points of the new caps has changed things dramatically Assault can't compare to skirmish.
With hope the devs will give assault a look sometime during t3 but I'd be willing to wager it waits until t4. Scout gets objectively stronger in t4 so hopefully assault gets a nice long stare down
Re: SW weakest class?
No I didn't know you needed "m2". I thought it needed Unshakeable Focus like I mentioned in my postpaps wrote:1 shot? U know u need to have moral 2 up, us it, use VON and Steady Aim wile arrow is flying. So that are 4 Abilitys, u need to get M2 use it that is 1.1 sec gcd + 3 sec FA fast + 1 sec fly time (maybe less) that is around 5 sec for around 5k dmg, u want to tell me sorc/bw cant do same dmg in 5 sec?Tklees wrote: 1. Festerbombing was nerfed because no ability should 1 shot anyone. Unshakeable focus is still one of the strongest morals in the game.
You also pop steady aim before you cast FA and use m2 during flight to properly do it so that if it didn't 1 shot you could follow up with a GA, EA, or FtW.
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Re: SW weakest class?
Tklees wrote: No I didn't know you needed "m2". I thought it needed Unshakeable Focus like I mentioned in my post

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Re: SW weakest class?
Ugh, we discussed a thousand times why you can't compare FA with Sorc/BW rotation...paps wrote:1 shot? U know u need to have moral 2 up, us it, use VON and Steady Aim wile arrow is flying. So that are 4 Abilitys, u need to get M2 use it that is 1.1 sec gcd + 3 sec FA fast + 1 sec fly time (maybe less) that is around 5 sec for around 5k dmg, u want to tell me sorc/bw cant do same dmg in 5 sec?Tklees wrote: 1. Festerbombing was nerfed because no ability should 1 shot anyone. Unshakeable focus is still one of the strongest morals in the game.
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Re: SW weakest class?
The issue was that its hard to spot this kind of burst as its all self buffed. A Sorc/BW has to preload 2 or 3 DoTs on a person before the damage comes in, and those DoTs are cleansable by the RP/WP and ZL/DoK, arguably some of the most popular healing classes.paps wrote:1 shot? U know u need to have moral 2 up, us it, use VON and Steady Aim wile arrow is flying. So that are 4 Abilitys, u need to get M2 use it that is 1.1 sec gcd + 3 sec FA fast + 1 sec fly time (maybe less) that is around 5 sec for around 5k dmg, u want to tell me sorc/bw cant do same dmg in 5 sec?Tklees wrote: 1. Festerbombing was nerfed because no ability should 1 shot anyone. Unshakeable focus is still one of the strongest morals in the game.
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