[Magus] Why so weak?

[peterthepan3]

You're right.
Still, I don't want the magus to be as powerful as a sorcerer.
I just want the magus to be a viable RDPS...

speaking as a magus, i think 5/6+ years of being one of the worst classes in the game deserves making the class 'as powerful as a sorcerer'. would be nice to shift the balance around and see how people adapt

and echoing what Aza said: the class is a ranged DPS and should be able to fill in that role as well as a sorcerer or a squig.

[Lindisfarne]

Give magus Ranged KD!

[magter3001]

Give magus Ranged KD!

They got AoE stagger and AoE knockdown already

Damage increase or DoTs uncleansable by gcleanse would be better.

[Gachimuchi]

Give magus Ranged KD!

They got AoE stagger and AoE knockdown already

Damage increase or DoTs uncleansable by gcleanse would be better.

DoTs being uncleanseable wouldn't do much. As it stands magus/engi DoTs tickle and can be mitigated by a HoT and maybe a groupheal.

[peterthepan3]

Some sort of mechanic that encourages application of DoTs for maximum potency (similar to affl locks) would be good to brainstorm. cant wait for these balance forums

[Ossos]

hell yeah... magus for president
btw can we have fly mounts for a fast keep defense ;p (looms for alts and daily quests whould be nice too)

...almost forget the "arenas", our "creative devs" need to think in the 6v6 cool kids

[Shadowgurke]

speaking as a magus, i think 5/6+ years of being one of the worst classes in the game deserves making the class 'as powerful as a sorcerer'. would be nice to shift the balance around and see how people adapt

The amount of time a class is "weak" should not ever be a factor in how to buff classes. You don't "deserve" to be stronger than other classes just because the class was supposedly weak for a long period of time.

and echoing what Aza said: the class is a ranged DPS and should be able to fill in that role as well as a sorcerer or a squig.

People only say that a Sorc should still be the top DPS. Magus has medium armor, absolutely ridiculous CC and a pull that is beyond broken after all

[peterthepan3]

speaking as a magus, i think 5/6+ years of being one of the worst classes in the game deserves making the class 'as powerful as a sorcerer'. would be nice to shift the balance around and see how people adapt

The amount of time a class is "weak" should not ever be a factor in how to buff classes. You don't "deserve" to be stronger than other classes just because the class was supposedly weak for a long period of time.

and echoing what Aza said: the class is a ranged DPS and should be able to fill in that role as well as a sorcerer or a squig.

People only say that a Sorc should still be the top DPS. Magus has medium armor, absolutely ridiculous CC and a pull that is beyond broken after all

Medium armor? lol

you're right, but my point was that this misconception that no class should rival the sorcerer ought to be done away with, and it would be NICE to see classes that have generally performed worse and been weaker take the 'throne' for once. look at how pisspoor marauder used to be compared to how it is now.

noone is disputing that. magus should, however, be able to fill in a DPS slot to the same degree that a squig or a sorc can - that's all we are asking for.

in regards to CC? aside from stagger and rift, there is nothing unique about our CC; CC that other classes have already.

[Shadowgurke]

Medium armor? lol

pretty close to it, yes.

you're right, but my point was that this misconception that no class should rival the sorcerer ought to be done away with, and it would be NICE to see classes that have generally performed worse and been weaker take the 'throne' for once. look at how pisspoor marauder used to be compared to how it is now.

I agree, but sorc is so strong because that is literally all the class offers. High burst ranged dps. If you rival that with the Magus then the magus is stronger.

noone is disputing that. magus should, however, be able to fill in a DPS slot to the same degree that a squig or a sorc can - that's all we are asking for.

And I never said that I disagree with that

in regards to CC? aside from stagger and rift, there is nothing unique about our CC; CC that other classes have already.

ASIDE from by far the best non morale stagger on a super short cooldown that is also ranged, an AoE knockdown that despite being situational is still an AoE knockdown and the pull that completely changes the dynamics of oRvR? no, apart from that they offer nothing unique. It does not mean that also having an aoe root and a spammable knockback on top of everything I mentioned isn't worthwhile. The class has more CC than anything else.
I know this sounds like hyperbole but you have to understand that you can't just give this class Sorc like DPS

[Telen]

Dots really need something to make them more effective in rvr while not op in 1v1. swtor handles it well with channel procs like the locks in wow or with deathmarks that increase damage from dots for a burst window.