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Re: Remove rr cap

Post#11 » Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:56 am

Annapos36 wrote:no, I'm veteran war player since day 1 to it's last breath. I always played only for rr, never done any stupid pve grind. now I'm forced to do it when I have 15% of level bar and caped rr... I'm loosing my intrest in this game thanks to this.
On live the RR was linked to your
lvl until lvl 36. They changed it with RR 100 near the end.
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Re: Remove rr cap

Post#12 » Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:28 am

saupreusse wrote:
Annapos36 wrote:no, I'm veteran war player since day 1 to it's last breath. I always played only for rr, never done any stupid pve grind. now I'm forced to do it when I have 15% of level bar and caped rr... I'm loosing my intrest in this game thanks to this.
On live the RR was linked to your
lvl until lvl 36. They changed it with RR 100 near the end.
Mythic raised the RR cap exactly to counter power gap and now devs bringing it back, which doesn't make any sense. There was long threads about power gap with complaints. If I remember it correctly cap was 10 lvl - 20RR, x2 like this and it was fine.
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Re: Remove rr cap

Post#13 » Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:50 pm

Annapos36 wrote:no, I'm veteran war player since day 1 to it's last breath. I always played only for rr, never done any stupid pve grind. now I'm forced to do it when I have 15% of level bar and caped rr... I'm loosing my intrest in this game thanks to this.
Wow, just wow. You lose interest in a game that you love because you don't gain purple numbers? How about play the game because you love the game?
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Re: Remove rr cap

Post#14 » Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:36 pm

zabis wrote:
Annapos36 wrote:no, I'm veteran war player since day 1 to it's last breath. I always played only for rr, never done any stupid pve grind. now I'm forced to do it when I have 15% of level bar and caped rr... I'm loosing my intrest in this game thanks to this.
Wow, just wow. You lose interest in a game that you love because you don't gain purple numbers? How about play the game because you love the game?
may be he lose the interest cause he want play to warhammer online and not to a korean grinder like RoR start to look. Many here suffer the way to rr 100 and ROR beginning to look a lot like this, with all that stupid cap, if i get lv80 with a char i have another 20 chars for lv up to 80, dont need a 75% cap cause nothing.
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Re: Remove rr cap

Post#15 » Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:45 pm

Remember guys, its an mmo RPG. Half the fun is watching your character progress and become more powerful. When people peoples progression suddenly grind to a halt (reaching 99% renown rank at 30% on an XP bar), it can be very unpleasant. Id suggest either raising experience gains in rvr to keep pace with renown or to bring back the renown cap system of your level x2.

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Re: Remove rr cap

Post#16 » Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:33 pm

dude... I made many chars in the past and I know exacly how it worked. I remember times when cap was 50 rr and invader set was top one, after that it was rised to rr 80. and like year before closing it was rised to 100. And since day 1 there wasnt any stupid rr cap. And that was perfect way to feel my character progression. Now ? Let's take t1 as an example. It's zerg vs zerg or either of sides is blockin others WC. What feeling of progression I can get when I'm beeing farmed on my lvl 4 SM ? My xp is growing patheticly slow and rr is capped. Sorry I'm not an masohist. Game must be plesant. And it's not that way. I wouldnt mind being blocked in wc, when at least i could get like 5 - 10 rr points and feel a little bit of progres. But now I get 5xp and I cant move out my WC neither my rr bar is moving. It's waste of time that way. Btw sorry my english is not perfect( it is my 2nd language) but I hope I made my point. we all know that this game starts after lvl 40. So why make getting there even harder ? t2 is hell, t3 is literaly dead. True game starts in t4 and we all know that. What are Devs afraid of ? this game was always premade oriented (whch is good) there is zero diferences if you get smashed by premade on rr 40 or rr 60 because premade owns pug always, because this is what makes that game great and unusual (communication and cooperation). So why take away fun for more dedicated players and make their rr progression slower ?

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Re: Remove rr cap

Post#17 » Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:56 pm

Annapos36 wrote:dude... I made many chars in the past and I know exacly how it worked. I remember times when cap was 50 rr and invader set was top one, after that it was rised to rr 80. ... And since day 1 there wasnt any stupid rr cap.
You should seek medical attention for your foot.

The reason renown ranks are capped to character level is to narrow the power gap in any particular tier. This makes it easier to balance things like bolstering and debolstering in PvP, and it makes it easier to tune content like dungeons and PQs in PvE.

Concerns about the comfort or "smoothness" of progression will always be secondary to concerns about balance. Epecially as we introduce designs and concepts geared toward getting players to revisit earlier tiers and lower-level content.

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Re: Remove rr cap

Post#18 » Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:46 pm

Annapos36 wrote:no, I'm veteran war player since day 1 to it's last breath. I always played only for rr, never done any stupid pve grind. now I'm forced to do it when I have 15% of level bar and caped rr... I'm loosing my intrest in this game thanks to this.
Why is your only motivation to play watching a purple bar fill up? So many people seem to have no concept or fun for the sake of it. And besides you aren't forced to pve AT ALL. How about seeing the rr as a perk, a part of the journey instead of the main goal.

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Re: Remove rr cap

Post#19 » Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:20 pm

PartizanRUS wrote:
saupreusse wrote:
Annapos36 wrote:no, I'm veteran war player since day 1 to it's last breath. I always played only for rr, never done any stupid pve grind. now I'm forced to do it when I have 15% of level bar and caped rr... I'm loosing my intrest in this game thanks to this.
On live the RR was linked to your
lvl until lvl 36. They changed it with RR 100 near the end.
Mythic raised the RR cap exactly to counter power gap and now devs bringing it back, which doesn't make any sense. There was long threads about power gap with complaints. If I remember it correctly cap was 10 lvl - 20RR, x2 like this and it was fine.
while this was fine in lower tiers it was not in t3.

hence a little fix make it like rr= rank+5/10 or have it 2x until rank 40 AND rr40 so you can be sure to enter t4 with rank 40 rr 40(or rank 40 rr 45/50). But not more. And no more t3 ppl with rank 39 rr 78.
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Re: Remove rr cap

Post#20 » Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:35 pm

Tough love, its like this so people can not get massive renown ranks in tier 2 and 3 and dominate everyone just for fun. It also semi forces you to get out of the tier you are in, continuing to progress through the game and ultimately explore some of the areas of the world you might otherwise miss.
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