DPS spec tank/healer Hypocrisy

[ZewKrwi]

Why is it when there is a discussion on DPS spec healers its all rainbows and butterflies, but when a DPS spec tank thread starts going it all DIE NOOB you suck reroll mara/wl scrublord!!!?

DPS Shaman can be very usefull DoK is not OP but also can make a lot of dps and heal thats why i guess.
Second thing is even dps healers can cleans, buff or even give you some heal... while tanks have real problem with guarding and it's hard to find good tank this days.

I agree that you play your way atleast untile you play solo, but if you play in wb or made by player pt, you should play how your mates wants. If you have dps in pt they don't need dps tank or heal but true heal and tank.

[Aurandilaz]

You don't notice well played dps tanks because they play like tanks, providing guard, but also doing considerable assisting damage that helps win the fights. Just like you might not notice a healer being dps, if they end up healing you surprisingly well via their lifetaps (many good shamans and AMs out there who do proper dmg+decent heals)

Think of a good dps tank as a somewhat defensive mdps, but who still can guard others. They have somewhat higher defences than the average mdps, but can in many cases even compete with the damage output that below-average mdps do.

A well played of offensive tank is more valuable to a team than an extremely squishy WE/WH,

[Daknallbomb]

You don't notice well played dps tanks because they play like tanks, providing guard, but also doing considerable assisting damage that helps win the fights. Just like you might not notice a healer being dps, if they end up healing you surprisingly well via their lifetaps (many good shamans and AMs out there who do proper dmg+decent heals)

Think of a good dps tank as a somewhat defensive mdps, but who still can guard others. They have somewhat higher defences than the average mdps, but can in many cases even compete with the damage output that below-average mdps do.

A well played of offensive tank is more valuable to a team than an extremely squishy WE/WH,

Jep thats true there are some nice dps Tanks out there But not alot. At least they need good gear and good rr to Make a guard and Utility and dmg.
The most dps Tanks are not cool what i saw last month execpt a few

[TanithScout]

If anyone knows/remembers a 6man group called Explicit Content, I ran with them for a while and we had quite some success. They let me dps WP sometimes and it only works if you have 2 healers, not one. If you have 2 healers then often the dps WP at least just wasn't enough damage. But it may be different here, was different meta back then and I could see it working but still suffer from same problems. A dps healer/tank takes a dps slot, NOT a tank/heal slot generally speaking as there are exceptions.

If you wanna play dps tank or healer then thats always totally fine. However I'm of the opinion that you should full tank or full healbot if there is only one and that's you in a group.

Put on a shield and chant those healing tunes for the good of your group and your realm!

[Lancez]

If you wanna play dps tank or healer then thats always totally fine. However I'm of the opinion that you should full tank or full healbot if there is only one and that's you in a group.

So, play how you want except if there is a reason to do otherwise. This could be a never ending requirement if there aren't enough healers or tanks in pugs all night.

If you aren't coming in with a balanced group then you have to accept whatever you get. imo the SC handler should only pop when a balanced group is in Q, min 1 tank, 1 heal and the rest wildcards (per 6 slots). Or something to that effect. just don't start if not a single healer is Q'd, or no tanks, etc ect.

Something akin to WoW's LFR function. Players commit to roles and fulfill them or they are kicked.

just to explain the idea not saying it would be perfect or even feasible.

[K13R]

Play/played all the tanks in game. As long as you have enough avoidance spefically parry gaurd damage is no issue. Sacrificing All survivability stats is never a good idea on any class esp front line fighter. Some tanks can put out some respectable dps wilst still rotating guard, and controling the flow of battle. My guess its the ones that forsake the primary job of a tank to do try and do the job of a dps toon people have issue with. So in my eyes a tank that can fufill it primary roll wilst doing some good assist damage is just aa valuable as a healer dps'n between heals. Its both healers and tanks that give the middle finger to thier primary roll i think people have issue with.

[peterthepan3]

A DPS Tank is a viable addition, and indeed a necessary one, in most 6man groups.


A tank pretending to be a DPS** (distinction) is normally a waste of a slot, unless its a SM/BO with a HD provided elsewhere.

[Dabbart]

Especially if you have 2 set's of gear, all using the same alt appearances/color system to catch people off-guard... yea that's it. Ignore me... I don't crit for 1100 per swing...

[roadkillrobin]

Glass cannon tank wich doesn't utilize it's class tools and rambo into the enemy frontline is worse then a empty slot on the roster coz it feeds the enemy morale before it dies. Dps healers are able to keep themself up to some extent and AoE detaunt to mimic a temporay Guard while still bring some kinda utillity to your group. A good dps tank is the ones able to keep themself up and the ones their protecting. And this is pretty much an impossible task (except for maybe SM) for tanks that blow all their resources into boosting their own damage.

[lilsabin]

If you wanna play dps tank or healer then thats always totally fine. However I'm of the opinion that you should full tank or full healbot if there is only one and that's you in a group.

So, play how you want except if there is a reason to do otherwise. This could be a never ending requirement if there aren't enough healers or tanks in pugs all night.

If you aren't coming in with a balanced group then you have to accept whatever you get. imo the SC handler should only pop when a balanced group is in Q, min 1 tank, 1 heal and the rest wildcards (per 6 slots). Or something to that effect. just don't start if not a single healer is Q'd, or no tanks, etc ect.

Something akin to WoW's LFR function. Players commit to roles and fulfill them or they are kicked.

just to explain the idea not saying it would be perfect or even feasible.

lol , that meansthe devs will have to create a system that reconise yourtalent tree and pitch you in as a healer and make sure u cant change while in (thats what is happening with wow)...Good luck with such a project , loool ,