DPS AM hither and thither
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- peterthepan3
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Re: DPS AM hither and thither
Shaman don't and they're pretty popular, plus other classes. It's called a burst rotation mate. I speak from pov of dps am in a group and not soloing so they play differently. Lance fury searing together is good burst. You should never just searing on its own (assuming you can set up a rotation)

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- shaggyboomboom
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Re: DPS AM hither and thither
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2. Lance has the exact same dmg as laser, but with a cast time (you can use laser on the run for the 1st tick before its interrupted),fury has even less, with limited range...If you start spamming lance/fury you wont be able to keep up the dots for the full duration of laser (searing touch)
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Ye, but getting it in does happen, its a 1.2/2s cast so it wont hurt you. BW also have 2s cast abilities and they manage to do just fine.
2. Lance has the exact same dmg as laser, but with a cast time (you can use laser on the run for the 1st tick before its interrupted),fury has even less, with limited range...If you start spamming lance/fury you wont be able to keep up the dots for the full duration of laser (searing touch)
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Ye, but getting it in does happen, its a 1.2/2s cast so it wont hurt you. BW also have 2s cast abilities and they manage to do just fine.

Re: DPS AM hither and thither
As I said, whatever floats your boat....for me that tactic is a waste of slot, it doesn't mean it is for everyone.
Lance is slower, costs more action, and does the same dmg, unless.....you are sitting on tranqility points which is pretty much never if you're dpsing. The op was about dps AM, not hybrid, or healers trying to dps. And if you land it you have 25% to remove something that 2 out of the 3 healer classes don't even have. You cant switch tactics in combat, when you realize they only have dok and/or zealot.
Lance is slower, costs more action, and does the same dmg, unless.....you are sitting on tranqility points which is pretty much never if you're dpsing. The op was about dps AM, not hybrid, or healers trying to dps. And if you land it you have 25% to remove something that 2 out of the 3 healer classes don't even have. You cant switch tactics in combat, when you realize they only have dok and/or zealot.
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- peterthepan3
- Posts: 6509
Re: DPS AM hither and thither
The idea isn't to replace Searing Touch with Lance...rather, to have them hit at the same time (along with Fury), thus resulting in more burst DPS (burst being that which kills things).
If you're soloing/pugging, it isn't really important. But if you are using the DPS AM against another group, you have to min-max. Similar to how a Magus does BoC/SOI/SVF to hit in the same timestamp.
DM removes a blessing from enemy. Classes that use blessings: Blackguard (their shield/parry/armor/crit reduce), DoK (aoe heal/shield), Black Orc (aoe armor buff, shield), Zealot (various buffs/bubbles), etc. Probably more I've missed. Point being it isn't as useless as people make out, deals spirit dmg whenever it procs (and iirc it can proc aoe-wied from dissipating energies).
If you're up against good players I'd use 10% undefendable and the Asuryan variant, too. Nothing worse than having your dots disrupted.
If you're soloing/pugging, it isn't really important. But if you are using the DPS AM against another group, you have to min-max. Similar to how a Magus does BoC/SOI/SVF to hit in the same timestamp.
DM removes a blessing from enemy. Classes that use blessings: Blackguard (their shield/parry/armor/crit reduce), DoK (aoe heal/shield), Black Orc (aoe armor buff, shield), Zealot (various buffs/bubbles), etc. Probably more I've missed. Point being it isn't as useless as people make out, deals spirit dmg whenever it procs (and iirc it can proc aoe-wied from dissipating energies).
If you're up against good players I'd use 10% undefendable and the Asuryan variant, too. Nothing worse than having your dots disrupted.

Re: DPS AM hither and thither
It really isn't that hard. Try to do as much damage as possible in a short timestamp
DoTs
3 (or 2) second skill that has travel time
1s skill
Instant skill
Channel
That's what sorcs/BWs do. If it didn't work you would just see them spamming Doombolt/Fireball.
DoTs
3 (or 2) second skill that has travel time
1s skill
Instant skill
Channel
That's what sorcs/BWs do. If it didn't work you would just see them spamming Doombolt/Fireball.
- shaggyboomboom
- Posts: 1230
Re: DPS AM hither and thither
pref rotation is:
transfer force -> law of conduct -> searing gaze -> ap drain -> scatter -> lance -> fury/silence -> storm of cronos (if u got it) -> searing touch
transfer force -> law of conduct -> searing gaze -> ap drain -> scatter -> lance -> fury/silence -> storm of cronos (if u got it) -> searing touch

- peterthepan3
- Posts: 6509
Re: DPS AM hither and thither
You wanna ensure spirit debuff is applied either via sm or storm prior to abilities. Iirc abilities used pre-debuff don't benefit from it?shaggyboomboom wrote:pref rotation is:
transfer force -> law of conduct -> searing gaze -> ap drain -> scatter -> lance -> fury/silence -> storm of cronos (if u got it) -> searing touch

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- shaggyboomboom
- Posts: 1230
Re: DPS AM hither and thither
well ye, if you want better sustain use spirit debuff, for bigger burst use my versionpeterthepan3 wrote:You wanna ensure spirit debuff is applied either via sm or storm prior to abilities. Iirc abilities used pre-debuff don't benefit from it?shaggyboomboom wrote:pref rotation is:
transfer force -> law of conduct -> searing gaze -> ap drain -> scatter -> lance -> fury/silence -> storm of cronos (if u got it) -> searing touch

- charlysixb
- Posts: 357
Re: DPS AM hither and thither
That is! He summed it up perfectly.Penril wrote:It really isn't that hard. Try to do as much damage as possible in a short timestamp
DoTs
3 (or 2) second skill that has travel time
1s skill
Instant skill
Channel
That's what sorcs/BWs do. If it didn't work you would just see them spamming Doombolt/Fireball.
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