Finally I got one Gold one Purple these 2 days

[Haojin]

2 gold 2 purp 2 blue countless white after new system.

[szejoza]

Uhm time = reward. Just look at your amount of bags, it's clearly the more bags you have the more chances to get golds/purples.
Evening EU time locks usually take 3-4 hours though

Exactly this

If I'm about to go offline and see that the new zone is unlocking I'm going there to strike few kills, if zone is about to get locked I'm rushing there too (not that my presence in any of these zones would affect general outcome of the fight - EU prime time zergs ftw) that 10-15minute investment should grant the lowest contribution possible, which in the end accumulates to the level when I'm getting bags. If you are part of organised warband it might be not that easy tho

[Glorian]

Yes, rng and stuff. But overall it seems the gold, purple, blues are flowing.

The last year I didn't play a zone from the beginning till the end. And if we or I ran for two hours at Eu prime you have no chance to win something vs 170 concurrent rolls.

So truth now is: Get more locks and you will get a good one after time. Get contribution and you will boost each roll.

[Hargrim]

2 gold 2 purp 2 blue countless white after new system.

How was it before the changes for same amount of time?

[Haojin]

2 gold 2 purp 2 blue countless white after new system.

How was it before the changes for same amount of time?

note: i never win a colored bag on my destro toons after roll change. all bags i get from order with high aao.

well, if i played like that before changes i can say %100 gold/purple/blue all the time.

[Aurandilaz]

How was it before the changes for same amount of time?

Previously on my Sorc:
-win purple/blue/green like 30-60% of time when doing RvR and occasional gold once a month at least
-now on Sorc: Purple White White White White White (same contri renownwise as before)

Then again that seems to be a curse related to organized warbands who cause enemy to have AAO and by simply showing up we shoot ourselves in the foot regarding our loot roll luck.

Played Order side on BW, was 5 min CW and won purple so that was nice, Subju weapons always welcome. Though longer zone stays and far higher contris also resulted in White White White on that side.

Obviously there is RNG involved as usual and I don't mind Whites. Problem stems from enemy refusing to field enough organized warbands to counter whatever Destro brings with us whenever we do an organized warband session, CNTK alone is not enough to halt the tide despite their brave attempts.

[Hargrim]

If there is a lot of AAO the rewards for zerging side is reduced.

Also I think the bigger issue here is not 'Order can't field enough people to contain our awesomeness' but just randoms logging destro which will surely affect AAO and your rewards.

[Glorian]

If there is a lot of AAO the rewards for zerging side is reduced.

Also I think the bigger issue here is not 'Order can't field enough people to contain our awesomeness' but just randoms logging destro which will surely affect AAO and your rewards.

Aye. AAO counts for quantity not quality.

@Hao, Aurandi:
You both are not represantive.
Overall High Performers who were in the past in the top 10 will get less, while the 90% rest of the realm population will get more.

Which is imo a better distribution.

[Aurandilaz]

If there is a lot of AAO the rewards for zerging side is reduced.

Also I think the bigger issue here is not 'Order can't field enough people to contain our awesomeness' but just randoms logging destro which will surely affect AAO and your rewards.

We are not "awesome", unless ofc having basic warband organization and following leader makes one "awesome" these days with generally low pug average standards... You should see my "skilled" gameplay that involves facerolling keyboard whilst borderline awake.
We "joke" in guild chat about how soon the AAO for our side will vanish as soon we bring the guild wb to the lake. It doesn't matter if 1 hour previously its 150 D and 250 O, as we come and fight for 1-2 hours, its bound to result in Order eventually ending with AAO, and thus ruining our loot rolls under new system.


How would you recommend our guild should play? If we don't log in, we have zero contri, and if we log in and form an organized warband that grinds Order until they have AAO, we get greatly diminished loot rolls thanks to AAO punishment.

[Tamarlan]

I know I should be more patient but my initial hype after announement of personal loot system is gone. Getting Whites over and over again without knowing how the contribution sums up over time. Do we need 50, 100 or 1000 Whites before the chance for Golden is actually good?