[choppa] How do you deal damage?

[Cortrillion]

But im really haveing problems. I cant fight any class solo. WH/IB/SM/RP/WP/SW/BW/WL and ofs KoTBS stomps me... slayer is a 50/50 until he pops what ever it is that skill that lets him win.

But that would be all ok, if i was strong in group fights.... but i do less damage than an Arch Mage??? he is ranged and he can heal. Then wtf do i bring?

[Reesh]

I feel the issue wasn't in lack of dps, but in lack of defences on your part. You're basically specced full on offensive, d/d and parry from renown is not enough, especially when you've faced one of the best, if not the best dueling class.

You should get into fs lvl3 as well, get some more wounds, if you want to go for solo mode. Your current stats favors strongly play in a 6man matter, when you can get support.

I hear what your saying. But even with a full dps build on my part, he dos more dmg than me.

Dps am/shaman is one of the hardest matchups to face, if he has a little bit of time to preload the dots on you, and you don't have strong pots, perfect gear, perfect play on your side - you're basically done.

As an addition, when you're getting close to one, he'll pop storm of cronos to basically strip you from most of your spirit resistances, so from that type he deals damage with.
Bring to it decent lifetaps and self heals, that your furious choppin cannot even come close to, and you've got hardest class to deal with.

When two of the best magus and ams I know faced each other in duel spec, neither managed to kill each other, because of how high their sustain and defences were on top od everything.

The only way to kill an am in my eyes as a choppa, is to unfortunately go balls deep into offensive spec/Stats, and as an addition get a jump on him, when he doesn't notice you. Otherwise, if he starts to preload dots from 100ft, snare you, kd away and other good jazz, it's over.

[Reesh]

But im really haveing problems. I cant fight any class solo. WH/IB/SM/RP/WP/SW/BW/WL and ofs KoTBS stomps me... slayer is a 50/50 until he pops what ever it is that skill that lets him win.

But that would be all ok, if i was strong in group fights.... but i do less damage than an Arch Mage??? he is ranged and he can heal. Then wtf do i bring?

As a choppa you bring one of the highest dps in the game with the right gear and spec GROUPWISE. With the right support of the team you can stay for long periods of time in red zone and land huge crits on enemy players, without dying.

This is a group oriented game, not a solo one.

[Cortrillion]

But im really haveing problems. I cant fight any class solo. WH/IB/SM/RP/WP/SW/BW/WL and ofs KoTBS stomps me... slayer is a 50/50 until he pops what ever it is that skill that lets him win.

But that would be all ok, if i was strong in group fights.... but i do less damage than an Arch Mage??? he is ranged and he can heal. Then wtf do i bring?

As a choppa you bring one of the highest dps in the game with the right gear and spec GROUPWISE. With the right support of the team you can stay for long periods of time in red zone and land huge crits on enemy players, without dying.

This is a group oriented game, not a solo one.

Ya, that is why i picked the class, I just dont see it at all. I do FARE less dmg than almost anyone, as you can see here it is a healer that dos 10% more dps than i do with a full off stat and build. It is very clear that i do less damage than other DPS classes, by a huge margin, but on top of that im very very soft and easy a pie to kill.

[mubbl]

I dont know what tactics you run but i would suggest you use go for da softspot as main attack combined with flanking(15% dmg from sides/behind)
Can support reesh advice

In case you missed i edited my post from before

[Cortrillion]

I see it now Mubbi, that is what i run.

[peterthepan3]

The DPS AM actually wasn't hitting you that hard, if I'm being honest: glasscannon DPS AMs can get 700+ ticks on their dots. Also: you were using Furious Choppin' as a comparison, which deals mediocre damage and means you lose out on AA (no doubt you were using it to try and heal yourself back up, but the point still remains).

Choppa is a groupcentric class that absolutely needs other people in order to make it shine. There is no comparison between the burst of a guarded & healed Choppa, and that of a DPS AM: DPS AM relies on getting his DoTs on you - DoTs that can be cleansed by competent healers - while the Choppa has proc damage, AA damage, 25% crit damage modifier, incredible morale dumps to choose from, much higher crit potential, etc.

DPS AM does have good sustained DPS, but nowhere near the burst capabilities of a Choppa whatsoever. This sustained DPS is also reliant on his DoTs not being cleansed: cleanse his DoTs and GG.

I would suggest you go dual wield, make friendly with a 2h BG/BO and healer, and watch the class shine. Solo encounters are really not an accurate means of inferring whether or not a class is viable/better than others.

[oaliaen]

choppa is a very very very hard class to mastery. If you want to play good try to get r70+. but the in the final its very worth it when order biased players come to you and start a fight on chat. we choppas are proud , the real warriors of the game. not that WL easy going and engies easy aiming. We are the real fighters against all odds. And i assume the class need buff, ppl say its good like the post above...its wrong.

[Reesh]

choppa is a very very very hard class to mastery. If you want to play good try to get r70+. but the in the final its very worth it when order biased players come to you and start a fight on chat. we choppas are proud , the real warriors of the game. not that WL easy going and engies easy aiming. We are the real fighters against all odds. And i assume the class need buff, ppl say its good like the post above...its wrong.

Sounds like you're the one being wrong and biased at the same time. Ptp3 gave the perfect summary between the classes in competitive matter.

[oaliaen]

see? choppa have the potential to be the conqueror of the world. thats why you others hate the class so much. i understand.

And if you want to deal dmg wqhit choppa whisper nekkbraka ingame i gonna say to you some secrets who let order pissed very much.