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dirnsterer
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Re: aSW+WL+SM combo

Post#11 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:39 am

Just make it so that same side can fight 6vs6 so it might be actually interesting to watch and not just stomps.

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Re: aSW+WL+SM combo

Post#12 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:46 am

dirnsterer wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:39 am Just make it so that same side can fight 6vs6 so it might be actually interesting to watch and not just stomps.
Feel like that would be a mess to implement. But would be super dope and fun.
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Re: aSW+WL+SM combo

Post#13 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:53 am

But destro look cooler.
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Re: aSW+WL+SM combo

Post#14 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:58 am

Yes, I'd like to see order vs order and destro vs destro games too. It wouldn't solve any balance issues but it would be much more fun to watch and we could really say its a tournament.

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Re: aSW+WL+SM combo

Post#15 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:08 am

Ok so order have found a smallscale combo wich is great against smallscale destro,and for that they should get the classes nerfed? This is beyond ridiculous. Did you check RR/gear and if those teams play alot together in the lakes?

Nerfing some combos.....then we should nerf the total domination destro have in organised WB fights in the lakes aswell.

Calling out for nerfs is very easy,but sometimes you need to look beyond the issue in front of your eyes.
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Re: aSW+WL+SM combo

Post#16 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:10 am

After that tournament I'd better see destro getting same good combos (especially with rdps classes, poor sorc couldn't do anything with insane mobility and CC of WL that was chasing him alone and doing almost all the work).
aSW doesn't have that much to do with what the OP said because we remember that it was a WL not a SW who solo killed a very experienced healer by just pouncing in with guardian stance.

Even if there wasn't SW, WH could perform on the same level if not even better with WL and SM since it doesn't need bis gear and 70rr to work like aSW. It just happened that there are no good small scale WHs and both Kajtarn and Fenryl play SW for a very long time, they are not chasing some meta, they just play their classes for years.

Though WL, as I mentioned with a healer and a sorc above, indeed showed some really great results which moved it from pug killer to even premade killer.
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Re: aSW+WL+SM combo

Post#17 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:11 am

Manatikik wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:46 am
dirnsterer wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:39 am Just make it so that same side can fight 6vs6 so it might be actually interesting to watch and not just stomps.
Feel like that would be a mess to implement. But would be super dope and fun.
With duel mechanic already in place I can imagine it adopted to sign for duel as party V party instead of player V player. Coding will probably need some creative approach though.
Would be great to have Destro tournament in sacellum arena, the coliseum that it is.

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Re: aSW+WL+SM combo

Post#18 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:23 am

Game just isn't designed for 6v6 gameplay. It never was. Thinking you can tweak some skills in order to make classes work in a format were HP, class mechanics, ttk, cc durations, combat flow and much more was inherently designed for 12v12 and large scale combat is just asking for problems.
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Re: aSW+WL+SM combo

Post#19 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:25 am

relating to WL, one of their issues is putting all the good stuff in same tree;
-Pounce (absurd good for 5pts ability)
-Force Opportunity, very reward 9pts abilty

and then you just dump points into Guardian for pet KD + very powerful dmg buff from Lionine Frenzy

for some other classes, having similar "good stuff", it is spread at 13 13 13 pts. (obviously not all classes get their cookie jar cookies spread into different jars but some do)

Another mystery is then getting somehow FO to fire before you even finish Pouncing, my normal fingers maybe not skilled enough, might need to check if it's easier with a addon doing the dmg script for you. :P

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Stickzy
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Re: aSW+WL+SM combo

Post#20 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:39 am

Keep in mind that guardian WL is not working as intended. The pet is ignoring guard, hence why the guardian wl is so strong. Hopefully this will be fixed very soon 😊

Over all i had a great time doing 6v6 with some old friends of mine i havent played with in a long time😀

Also order have much more to offer at the table compared to destro. Just look at the chosen and kobs. Chosen CS removal was by far one of the worst changes, and ruined the chosen. **** happens mate.

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