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akisnaakkeli
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Re: New - WE or DoK?

Post#11 » Mon Jun 03, 2024 1:31 pm

Zxul wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 12:50 pm
Templa wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:29 am - You can go DPS once you have the gear to back it up
No real aoe and no real burst, can't deal with kiters. GL with dps except vs undergeared pug soloers.
Templa wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:29 am - You have a Melee/bruiser build with Shield. (The viability is very dependand on enemy, because sdok and swp are very susceptible to kiting)
There is also fun such as for example tank sitting on snb dok and keeping him permasnared. GL healing off dmg while hitting the tank, since he is the only one in range.
Dok can use Devour Essence 150ft away and can insta save someone. Used to also Heal debuff them back when DoKs had Aoe HD with Transfer Essence which is the only Melee Heal that uses Ap and heals your grp. So very much needed on dps Dok. And they still have 2 Spirit dmg melee heals so some healing can be off the tank but the problem is that there is no SE because no Transfer Essence:E

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Re: New - WE or DoK?

Post#12 » Mon Jun 03, 2024 1:39 pm

akisnaakkeli wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 1:31 pm
Zxul wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 12:50 pm
Templa wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:29 am - You can go DPS once you have the gear to back it up
No real aoe and no real burst, can't deal with kiters. GL with dps except vs undergeared pug soloers.
Templa wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:29 am - You have a Melee/bruiser build with Shield. (The viability is very dependand on enemy, because sdok and swp are very susceptible to kiting)
There is also fun such as for example tank sitting on snb dok and keeping him permasnared. GL healing off dmg while hitting the tank, since he is the only one in range.
Dok can use Devour Essence 150ft away and can insta save someone. Used to also Heal debuff them back when DoKs had Aoe HD with Transfer Essence which is the only Melee Heal that uses Ap and heals your grp. So very much needed on dps Dok. And they still have 2 Spirit dmg melee heals so some healing can be off the tank but the problem is that there is no SE because no Transfer Essence:E
And non of this compares to having an actual choppa in a dps slot.
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Re: New - WE or DoK?

Post#13 » Mon Jun 03, 2024 1:50 pm

Zxul wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 12:50 pm
Templa wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:29 am - You can go DPS once you have the gear to back it up
No real aoe and no real burst, can't deal with kiters. GL with dps except vs undergeared pug soloers.
Templa wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:29 am - You have a Melee/bruiser build with Shield. (The viability is very dependand on enemy, because sdok and swp are very susceptible to kiting)
There is also fun such as for example tank sitting on snb dok and keeping him permasnared. GL healing off dmg while hitting the tank, since he is the only one in range.
  • dps dok dmg is fine and it's not even hard to gear. as soon as you have full BL and full str talis you are good to go.
    WE/WH is the easier pick of the two for solo roaming, because you decide on what fights to pick and which ones to avoid.
  • If a tank is permasitting on sdok that's one less guarded target to keep track of. i call that a win :) And for ultra sweat mode you can go willpower hybrid sdok, though i don't know current viability
A lot of things play into the viability of both classes and acievable skillbuilds. Does OP want to focus on RvR, PvE, SCs, roaming, soloplay, 6man, 12man, 24man, maybe even a guild with a specific language, or a mix of everything? If OP wan't to experience all the game has to offer on one class i would definitely recommend DoK over WE.
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Re: New - WE or DoK?

Post#14 » Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:15 am

Zxul wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 1:39 pm
akisnaakkeli wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 1:31 pm
Zxul wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 12:50 pm

No real aoe and no real burst, can't deal with kiters. GL with dps except vs undergeared pug soloers.



There is also fun such as for example tank sitting on snb dok and keeping him permasnared. GL healing off dmg while hitting the tank, since he is the only one in range.
Dok can use Devour Essence 150ft away and can insta save someone. Used to also Heal debuff them back when DoKs had Aoe HD with Transfer Essence which is the only Melee Heal that uses Ap and heals your grp. So very much needed on dps Dok. And they still have 2 Spirit dmg melee heals so some healing can be off the tank but the problem is that there is no SE because no Transfer Essence:E
And non of this compares to having an actual choppa in a dps slot.
And this is absolutely fine. Hybrid classes should not be as good as pure damage dealer classes anyway.
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Re: New - WE or DoK?

Post#15 » Tue Jun 04, 2024 11:05 am

would be good if witch also be same level as choppa for wb
dok atleast has some spot as healer in wb. just lack stealth.
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Re: New - WE or DoK?

Post#16 » Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:04 am

If you want to solo in RvR zones, don't play a DoK. No ranged. Simple enough. If you want to be bored to tears trying to pick off stragglers, and rarely get to play in a warband, play a WE.

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