Lets Theory-craft: Slayers vs Choppas

[Penril]

Why not just swap the hate tactic at 15 out with Don't Wanna Live Foreva and end it that way?

Currently Slayers and Choppas are the best mDPS classes in their respective realms. Giving DWtLF to Choppas would only increase the disparity between them and Mara/WE.

I think it would be better to swap Wild Gambit on Slayers for their hate tactic Got No Time for You (which is available at lvl 33). This way you tone down Slayers a little bit, and don't hurt the other mDPS classes.

[Joshwa70]

Wl better than all other mdps combined

[Adell]

Why not just swap the hate tactic at 15 out with Don't Wanna Live Foreva and end it that way?

I think it would be better to swap Wild Gambit on Slayers for their hate tactic Got No Time for You (which is available at lvl 33). This way you tone down Slayers a little bit, and don't hurt the other mDPS classes.

Both sounds good. Either way it's a fast fix.
Shatter Limbs won't be a big deal if the ranks are raised to 25 because you would have to give up the heal debuff to spec for it.

[Tklees]

As the bottom feeder of the mdps world I think grulos solution is best. Would tone down slayers a bit and the choppa would then be on par with them for the moment.

[Tesq]

tone down slayer it's better, i agree with penr too, no sense fix slayer damage with another slayer.....

[Ungrin]

I consistently DON'T run wild gambit (because of the toughness debuff) and I'd say about 90% of the time my DPS is the highest in a sc. I think in t2 the bleed tactic is a bit better. I'd say don't even bother messing with wild gambit yet.

[Penril]

I consistently DON'T run wild gambit (because of the toughness debuff) and I'd say about 90% of the time my DPS is the highest in a sc. I think in t2 the bleed tactic is a bit better. I'd say don't even bother messing with wild gambit yet.

If you don't run Wild Gambit, then you shouldn't be against moving it to a later tier and swapping it for the hate reduction tactic.

Won't have any impact whatsoever in your gameplay, right?

[Ungrin]

I consistently DON'T run wild gambit (because of the toughness debuff) and I'd say about 90% of the time my DPS is the highest in a sc. I think in t2 the bleed tactic is a bit better. I'd say don't even bother messing with wild gambit yet.

If you don't run Wild Gambit, then you shouldn't be against moving it to a later tier and swapping it for the hate reduction tactic.

Won't have any impact whatsoever in your gameplay, right?

Honestly I only suggested it because imo it would be a waste of time.. albeit a very small amount of time.. but whatever. If they want to spend their time moving tactics and abilities around instead of working on map mechanics that's fine with me.

[Coryphaus]

Why not just swap the hate tactic at 15 out with Don't Wanna Live Foreva and end it that way?

I suggested this remember az per your suggestion that i make the thread and all approved bar those who opposed making any changes to the game.

I will not lie when the new major patch came i was surprised and bit dissapointed this was not a change

I consistently DON'T run wild gambit (because of the toughness debuff) and I'd say about 90% of the time my DPS is the highest in a sc. I think in t2 the bleed tactic is a bit better. I'd say don't even bother messing with wild gambit yet.

The problem is that with right now with no rr points crit chance is still very low that raw str and ws is better in the long run and b/c of wild gambit slayer can devote their talli, jewel and other itemizations to defensive stats like armor and toughness while choppas still have gear offensively to stack as much +str and ws as possible

[Coryphaus]

Why not just swap the hate tactic at 15 out with Don't Wanna Live Foreva and end it that way?

Currently Slayers and Choppas are the best mDPS classes in their respective realms. Giving DWtLF to Choppas would only increase the disparity between them and Mara/WE.

mara's have a spammable 50 wounds debuff, spamable tough debuff, disarm and they can consistently 1v1 any class on ordo

trust me mara is gonna be fine

But on the grand scheme of things changing tactics around will not address the disparity between choppas and slayers, only delay the issue