This is ridiculous

[Druin]

Order has Numerical advantage in Orvr for over a week: Devs "We are taking a slow, methodical approach to adjustments."

Destro has a Numerical Advantage in Orvr for 24 hours: Devs "we wiped the progress from yesterday in fairness. Destro Zerg is bad M'Kay."

Order didn't gain any gear from the zerging - but some people are too stupid to understand the difference.

So, what you are saying is that Order couldn't get it's sh*t together to mount a defense - for whatever reason - so that was unfair. Not because order failed to defend/Contest, but because Destro got gear.

I have a lowbie Shammy. I've tried to get into Warbands in ORVR and SCs for the past two weeks or so. Never successful against the organized, geared, and prepared Order onslaught. The PuG warbands get wiped like snails thrown onto salt. My first character I hit Influence and renown within a week on ORVR.

So in essence, Yes, Order's superior numbers stopped me from "getting gear". How is this any different? I mean, in reality, I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy because I had like 25-30 medals when I logged off and spent most of the night fighting Order at their wrcamp door and one SC, but tell me.. how is it any different Destro having superior numbers stopping you from "getting gear" when Order has stopped many Destro players from "getting Gear" these last few weeks?

EDIT: ALso - the term Zerging.. Why use it? It's meaningless. Its a 24 player warband. Anything less on your side and it's gonna feel like a zerg. the damn game is a 24 player Warband Game.. understand? It's not Zerging.. it's part of the damn game.

What I am saying is that 70% of the population was abusing a flawed system, taking empty keeps all night, to recieve the newly implemented gear.

[seorito]

There is the problem, If ordos go home and don't want to fight then destro have to stop playing rvr. That's not half fair; the problem came when the 90% of the orde came to train farm and didn't want to fight back.
Fighting back is what we've spent the las 3 weeks on the destro side, and that's the only reason why you haven't got plenty of medallions.

[yummypewp]

LOLing at all the madbros who farmed empty keeps for 8 hours, thinking what they were doing was not exploiting.

Shame on you, especially if your main is an Order.

[Mend]

What I am saying is that 70% of the population was abusing a flawed system, taking empty keeps all night, to recieve the newly implemented gear.

For 15 days it was Order who was abusing this system, taking keeps without any resistance, all the days, and no one complained about it, nothing was done against it.
It was extremly easy to them to farm renow, xp and influence for any main or reroll they need, when destruction players had to wait better time.

Should i mention the amazing amount of t2 medaillons orders get from this 2 weeks? Now they can convert plenty of them into potions or purple high level talismans (t2 gloves are salvageable for 5 medaillons). Nothing was done to stop it, or to remove any potions, tokens, gloves or talismans get by farming this keeps.

[yummypewp]

You left out the fact that when Order was taking keeps without resistance, the population was balanced.

Maybe it's Destro that should stop giving up so easily.

[Mend]

The rvr population wasn't balanced, for 2 weeks ostland and MoM were a supermarket for order, most of the time. Maybe not for the same reasons than yesterday but same consequences for rvr.
As i said Order players get some nice boost from this system, and no one complained about it even when destro had to stop rvr because it became a real slaughter for them.
Orders didn't complained about it, but it wasn't a balanced situation.

[Luuca]

Kettle calling Pot black.

It makes absolutely no difference to me personally, as I said my toon didn't participate in the mega Keep fiesta; however, the hypocrisy of Order to call us an exploiting zerg and convince a sympathetic Dev team to wipe the progress under the guise of "fairness", is just sad.

Do I agree that the system encourages large group RvR at PvE objectives? Hell yes. Do I agree that Destro "farmed an exploit"? Hell no. No more than Order did when they had their sh*t together and owned the RvR lakes over the past two weeks.

If you can't see the difference, then you're beyond reason. What's done is done. It's clear we need to move to a system that has any and all progress (read as item rewards, medallions, Inf, Renown) predicated upon killing opposition forces. The problem then goes back to realm balance. I didn't hear Order complaining when they were the larger of the two forces in Orvr...nor Destro for that matter.

[Outbreak]

"This is ridiculous" refering to the mighty victory of the order at the end of the night forcing all destro to go home crying?

[Razid1987]

I guess prime time is between 17 and 21 GMT every day except for weekends. After that it all dies off very quickly. It's like this every day. Today was no different from the rest:

http://fplteam.co.uk/RoR/popcharts.php

[Joshwa70]

Maybe destro was losing for two weeks because they logged over to order to farm empty keeps ss well... pot.. meet kettle