I also care to see THEIR appearance.
People have different priorities in live and care about different things - mind blown.
I also care to see THEIR appearance.
Exactly, why can't people just be exactly like you? Makes wayy more sense than to try and understand different perspectives.
Yeah this whole thing doesn't make sense. It has become apparent that there was no deliberation behind this change, and the reasoning behind it came after the fact, when the majority of the community went up in arms about it - and rightfully so.Pkunk wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:58 pm From the poll you get in the city:
"Have you experienced a player who was trying to disguise their skill using appearance gear
to explicity trick players in orvr"
I have to say: is this for real? Is this the real reason for the change? Have anyone
ever complained about such a thing? Do people pick a fight against level 40's based on how
their gear look? Oh look at that **** gear and I guess also crappy skills. Now its time to pick a fight!
Someone attacked an enemy player, prob. in 1 vs 1, expected an easy fight, got beaten,
checked armory and got butthurt about it?
For some classes, like magus, the starting gear looks great if you like it clean and neat.
Nobody is trying to fool anyone.
It was also an accident that happened when a pet turtle got loose and changed some values so we had to guess at changing them back.Mistdancer wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:18 pmYeah this whole thing doesn't make sense. It has become apparent that there was no deliberation behind this change, and the reasoning behind it came after the fact, when the majority of the community went up in arms about it - and rightfully so.Pkunk wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:58 pm From the poll you get in the city:
"Have you experienced a player who was trying to disguise their skill using appearance gear
to explicity trick players in orvr"
I have to say: is this for real? Is this the real reason for the change? Have anyone
ever complained about such a thing? Do people pick a fight against level 40's based on how
their gear look? Oh look at that **** gear and I guess also crappy skills. Now its time to pick a fight!
Someone attacked an enemy player, prob. in 1 vs 1, expected an easy fight, got beaten,
checked armory and got butthurt about it?
For some classes, like magus, the starting gear looks great if you like it clean and neat.
Nobody is trying to fool anyone.
Explanations from higher upper keyboards we have seen thus far:
1) Its an unintentional change as we unpacked some data. Oh well. We don't wanna be like live but on this particular issue, we will be extra conservative and essencialist about it.
2) Its an intentional change about performance.
3) Its neither an intentional nor an unintentional change, and it could be about performance, but we don't really know, nor could we know. We just did it. RIP to your countless hours of setting up your looks.
4) Its about players not being able to mask their true gear. (while a whole transmogrify system is up and running at the same time - and multiple quests / rewards / TOK unlocks yield cosmetic items)
Speaking of SH, how will enemies know fear when they can't see my pig face mask coming for them? =P
- - - -Pkunk wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:58 pm From the poll you get in the city:
"Have you experienced a player who was trying to disguise their skill using appearance gear
to explicity trick players in orvr"
I have to say: is this for real? Is this the real reason for the change? Have anyone
ever complained about such a thing? Do people pick a fight against level 40's based on how
their gear look? Oh look at that **** gear and I guess also crappy skills. Now its time to pick a fight!
Someone attacked an enemy player, prob. in 1 vs 1, expected an easy fight, got beaten,
checked armory and got butthurt about it?
For some classes, like magus, the starting gear looks great if you like it clean and neat.
Nobody is trying to fool anyone.
Team members and other community members spent some time on a Sunday to create, translate and push this survey the soonest and that's all you two care about?Mistdancer wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:18 pm Yeah this whole thing doesn't make sense. It has become apparent that there was no deliberation behind this change, and the reasoning behind it came after the fact, when the majority of the community went up in arms about it - and rightfully so.
Explanations from higher upper keyboards we have seen thus far:
1) Its an unintentional change as we unpacked some data. Oh well. We don't wanna be like live but on this particular issue, we will be extra conservative and essencialist about it.
2) Its an intentional change about performance.
3) Its neither an intentional nor an unintentional change, and it could be about performance, but we don't really know, nor could we know. We just did it. RIP to your countless hours of setting up your looks.
4) Its about players not being able to mask their true gear. (while a whole transmogrify system is up and running at the same time - and multiple quests / rewards / TOK unlocks yield cosmetic items)
The survey is an excellent move and thank you. That though, doesn't change the fact that this whole issue seems to be communicated in a convoluted manner, which is somewhat reflected on the survey also.GamesBond wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:39 pm- - - -Pkunk wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:58 pm From the poll you get in the city:
"Have you experienced a player who was trying to disguise their skill using appearance gear
to explicity trick players in orvr"
I have to say: is this for real? Is this the real reason for the change? Have anyone
ever complained about such a thing? Do people pick a fight against level 40's based on how
their gear look? Oh look at that **** gear and I guess also crappy skills. Now its time to pick a fight!
Someone attacked an enemy player, prob. in 1 vs 1, expected an easy fight, got beaten,
checked armory and got butthurt about it?
For some classes, like magus, the starting gear looks great if you like it clean and neat.
Nobody is trying to fool anyone.Team members and other community members spent some time on a Sunday to create, translate and push this survey the soonest and that's all you two care about?Mistdancer wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:18 pm Yeah this whole thing doesn't make sense. It has become apparent that there was no deliberation behind this change, and the reasoning behind it came after the fact, when the majority of the community went up in arms about it - and rightfully so.
Explanations from higher upper keyboards we have seen thus far:
1) Its an unintentional change as we unpacked some data. Oh well. We don't wanna be like live but on this particular issue, we will be extra conservative and essencialist about it.
2) Its an intentional change about performance.
3) Its neither an intentional nor an unintentional change, and it could be about performance, but we don't really know, nor could we know. We just did it. RIP to your countless hours of setting up your looks.
4) Its about players not being able to mask their true gear. (while a whole transmogrify system is up and running at the same time - and multiple quests / rewards / TOK unlocks yield cosmetic items)
We're asking to gather as much data for this topic as possible, and there are loads of people who encountered a player appearing to be lower geared. We want to know how the community feels about this in order to enlarge our pool of answers, should we ever need it in the future.
The initial change was due to several reasons; The performance improvement we expect to happen, the similarity to live and the ability for new players to see the right gear of their enemies since they're usually not familiar yet with high end gear. But the most important one was the improvement of performance, we also asked that in the survey to see if you experienced anything positive.
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