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Tklees
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Re: White lion Pounce

Post#111 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:29 pm

bwdaWAR wrote:
Koryu199X wrote:If it's not going to have the z-axis changed please at least implement a cool down of 20 seconds and make it more tactical in its use and application at some point down the line. Part of the enjoyment should be tactical thinking and strategy. In addition it should not be useable in mid air that never made sense in live and it doesn't now.
Razid1987 wrote:You might not know this, if you haven't used it yourself, but you always land about 10-15 ft behind the target if it's moving. As in, you're not in melee range, so you actually have to Pounce again, go get in range. Hence, why you many times see people use it more than once. Granted, many people just spam the **** out of it, because trolololol, but that's just to piss people off. If you want a cd on Pounce, it would only be fair if it adds an about 2 sec root on cast or so, just like the Warrior's Charge in WoW.
Lately I have been wondering, in regards to frequent demands such as the CD on Pounce or nerf to various (usually strong when solo) classes, how things would be ingame or on the forum if every post demanding nerfs to a class they don't play at all were deleted before posting. From players who have no clue what the class and ability they talk about is like, only know what it's like to be killed by it (which may be for infinite other reasons such as rank/gear difference or, oh my, mistakes made by them.)
Pounce spam is ridiculous, sure. But the ability does not perform its function as it is (ie put you in melee range of your target). Make Pounce do what it's supposed to be doing, and I'm sure 99% of WL players will gladly take even a 30s cooldown on it.
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Yes, I know the rhetorical example would be disastrous due to a different bias. But the point remains: people will complain about anything that inconveniences them, regardless if it's fair or not, or if they have experience with it at all.
in regards to nerfs and balance discussion it has been said a million times at this point that nothing is going to be changed until t4 and the only way a change will be put through is if posts follow the balance forum format found here:
http://www.returnofreckoning.com/forum/ ... 78&t=11105. Calls for nerfs will not be heard unless valid and supported by actual evidence and the support of the Dev team
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Manolitow
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Re: White lion Pounce

Post#112 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:34 pm

Razid1987 wrote: You can't. Please provice proof that supports your claim.
Manolitow wrote:Can jump on midair or water isnt a problem with an ability?
A wl has jumped on me on sc high pass cimetery trough lateral fences... and i cant do any record with my craps connexion...
Razid1987 wrote: What does that even mean? You mean, you don't want Pounce to work in water? What about BWs then? Surely fire should be extinguished by water, yes? The problem is, you cannot think logically about this, because balance.
Water = snare for everyone but wl pounce ignore this environnemental snare so why u talking about bw surely fire extinguished :mrgreen:

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Re: White lion Pounce

Post#113 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:37 pm

Manolitow wrote:
Azarael wrote:We're not doing anything else to any class until we reach T4.
But for nerfing the W O I on zealot we can do it before T4... very impartial :o
I think in future, people who accuse me of bias without understanding the basic principles of fixing versus making balance changes are going to have a bad time.

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Manolitow
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Re: White lion Pounce

Post#114 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:37 pm

Sir yes sir

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Razid1987
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Re: White lion Pounce

Post#115 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:38 pm

Manolitow wrote:A wl has jumped on me on sc high pass cimetery trough lateral fences... and i cant do any record with my craps connexion...
Those said fences don't break LoS. Ranged can shoot through them, too. That's a bad argument.
Manolitow wrote:Water = snare for everyone but wl pounce ignore this environnemental snare so why u talking about bw surely fire extinguished :mrgreen:
No. Water = Water. And so what? How often do you fight in water? Do you seriously see this is a big issue?

Also, look at TK's post. I won't continue this discussion. Waste of time.

ThePollie
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Re: White lion Pounce

Post#116 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:38 pm

I'm still not convinced he's not just another troll.

bloodi
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Re: White lion Pounce

Post#117 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:39 pm

You should try to not mix the terms troll and stupid.

It may look the same at first glance, is not.

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Manolitow
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Re: White lion Pounce

Post#118 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:40 pm

no i'm really serious... because we havent same opinion i'm a troll? :/

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bloodi
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Re: White lion Pounce

Post#119 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:40 pm

Manolitow wrote:no i'm really serious... because we havent same opinion i'm a troll? :/
Hence my point.

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Re: White lion Pounce

Post#120 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:44 pm

bloodi wrote:
Manolitow wrote:no i'm really serious... because we havent same opinion i'm a troll? :/
Hence my point.
Yeah. I had held out a small measure of hope that he wasn't really this consistently stupid, therefore the only other explanation was that he knows what he is saying, and is simply trolling.

But life is a meanie butthead.

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