Incredibly long group SC pops

[Dreadspectre]

It's only PC game and Vox don't should be necesary to playing in group but It is.

Not everybody want.

That's cool, and for those people there is a pug scenario which the devs have been kind enough to give.

Then there are those of us who do intend to play the game to its highest potential, which this topic pertains to.

You said in your post right above this one that getting people to group for group SC play isn't about competitive play.

Then you say that you're basically playing as a group because you want to be competitive and play to the "highest potential".

Make up your mind lol.

The fact is, grouping itself doesn't help you win. You find 5 random people who just want to join a party to meet a queue requirement, but they're still probably going to perform like pugs.

The only way a group becomes good is vox, practice, coordination, which many people just simply don't want to do. They just want to play, not feel stressed and super serious mode. So they solo queue.

I don't really know how you expect to change this attitude, no matter what rewards you tack onto group play and again, just because they're a group now doesn't mean they're going to be winning ****.

[Elemint]

You said in your post right above this one that getting people to group for group SC play isn't about competitive play.

Then you say that you're basically playing as a group because you want to be competitive and play to the "highest potential".

Make up your mind lol.

The fact is, grouping itself doesn't help you win. You find 5 random people who just want to join a party to meet a queue requirement, but they're still probably going to perform like pugs.

The only way a group becomes good is vox, practice, coordination, which many people just simply don't want to do. They just want to play, not feel stressed and super serious mode. So they solo queue.

I don't really know how you expect to change this attitude, no matter what rewards you tack onto group play and again, just because they're a group now doesn't mean they're going to be winning ****.

Those 2 statements don't contradict each other. You put in the carrot, and the attitude will change. They might play like pugs, but at least they'll have a properly made group, which makes it that much easier to play and win.

[peterthepan3]

^ Essentially. By playing the game to its 'highest potential', I refer to playing as a group, utilising all abilities/synergies that are only possible in a group of like-minded people.

Though, it isn't too hard to misconstrue that on this server and think that playing as a group somehow equates to being 'serious', lol.

[Tesq]

In the many, many pug scenarios i've done over the past month or two, never have i ever seen something that looks like a premade solo queing. The worst i've seen is 3+ people from an alliance who sometimes group playing pug scenarios, but i'm sure they were ungrouped and queing everything - nothing can be done about that.
If there is a group abusing the ques, especially an order one, they've done such an embarassing job that it doesn't even matter if they're 2/2/2 in comms or not.

Bollocks. I been playing them for the last month on pretty much daily basis and I can pick them all out for you by name and guild like one of the posters above has done. They queu at the same time and end up in the pug, wrecking it. Hours on end.

Well why are they not entitled to do that? Should they be forced to wait 20-30 minutes for their PvP? People are allowed to queue as a duo, is there anything forcing guilds to play as a group right now? If you happen to duo with someone from your guild, as does another pair from your guild - without knowing - should you be penalised?

'Hours on end' - you let this go on for hours and still don't form a group/try to adjust to it?

no they shouldn't, was stated by wargrim(?) in pug scenario introduction pacth note.... ppl doing this should be reported, tough if they solo queue and they end in same sc or duo etc because only that sc is popping and the population dont support more sc then so be it nothing you can do about it and nothing wrong from them, and this is pretty much the situation post conqueror patch

Try to find who do what with just screen and report it also hard anyway.

[peterthepan3]

Soooo....people from the same guild queuing pug scenario by chance - because of lack of group pops/ease of pug scenarios - should be punished, and forced to endure 20-30 minute waits?

K. I am honestly yet to see a guild go out of their way to do this. The lengths people go to to complain about everything and anything astound me.

[Daknallbomb]

well if you rly try to come as grp in a pug scs you should be banned to hell if you ask me !
if you cant do something against and only one pug sc is open well than it is what it is
but things like via ts same time pug sc q to rofl stomp pugs as grp BAN in my eyes

[peterthepan3]

Who is doing that? Or are we relying on hyperbole, as per usual?

Name and shame anyone doing that.

[Collateral]

No people shouldn't be punished because of that, that's really stupid. And I understand your frustration. If that is the only way for people to get scs going there's not much more you can do about it.

I did face premades at least twice in a pug sc tho, even when I thought "ah finally a sc I could maybe win".

[Daknallbomb]

Who is doing that? Or are we relying on hyperbole, as per usual?

Name and shame anyone doing that.

oh saw it few times now and heard that on diffrent ts servers now thing like ( okay all rdy ?? q up now !!! )
hey you got pop ? jep okay lets join !! hahaha 500-0 points dat nubs blah blah ....

and they should be punished for that !!
pug scs are for pugs for ppl that dont have grps or time to build some !
premates that try things like that dont want fun competition or good fights they want rofl stomp reward !!! like orvr mostly
thats NOT what we need here

[peterthepan3]

Again, can you name and shame the premades/players that are actively doing this?