Recent Topics

Ads

Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags

Let's talk about... everything else
User avatar
Scottx125
Posts: 974

Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags

Post#131 » Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:33 pm

Arslan wrote:You should also try to become a good player. You may not belong to a guild, but if you get the attention of some good premade due to your skill you will soon find yourself aming their company. This has happenned to me qute some times in the past. The best part was when Krieb-Invommingray-Tmooney etc saw me solo gannking in Reikland and for 1 month we played together. Never lost a single scen or fight vs rr80 premades or anything. But I had worked hard to be a part of their group. And solo queued for months.
I find it amazing how some people can't get it into their heads that some people do not want to be part of pre-mades. They want to queue up for a scenario, and enjoy a balanced match without having to face pre-mades which more often then not stomp randoms. The beauty of scenarios in my opinion is a quick match of PVP in a smaller more controlled enviroment, and is something to fall back on when there is no ORVR battles going on. To be honest I suggest we try disallowing pre-mades for a week, see peoples opinions of it and see if quality of play for pubbies increases, if it does then thats grand for everyone, perhaps not for people wanting to play together but for everyone individually it will balance the board from random pubby team skill level vs defined pre-made skill level. Then if there is enough desire for pre-mades PVP or guild vs guild pvp then events can be made. The only real useful reason for making pre-mades at the moment is playing with friends and farming pubbies.
Arslan wrote:What is the resemblence between a premade and a earring?
One sucks for pubbies and the other hurts your ear and brings you 1 step closer to being a cyborg.
Spoiler:
Seiigfrid RR 8X WP | Arthasus RR 7X KOTBS | Zalthazar RR 5X BW
Image
For the Gif in it's full glory:
Now a member of Oath.

Ads
User avatar
Arslan
Banned
Posts: 334

Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags

Post#132 » Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:43 pm

Well my friend, if you want to play alone, Witcher 3 is the game you will enjoy greatly these days. Son of lonely gameplay, do you know how fun it is to play with people you know say jokes etc while doing well? I have met people with whom I was premading 5 years ago and it is sooo great to see them again and play with them. And they are really good!
Ty for answering my question I had no idea what the resemblence was!
Image

User avatar
katroulitsa
Posts: 342

Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags

Post#133 » Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:01 pm

Scottx125 wrote:Simple solution, don't allow pre-mades. And if you really want to, have special maps reserved for pre-mades.
Are you for real? :D
Inav
Semya

peppex91
Posts: 90

Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags

Post#134 » Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:14 pm

I always queque alone, so i could be wrong there but i guess in general pugs are better versed for fun and jokes... Best premades are full of half-bot 1 way dudes with good gear and average knowledge about this game (no need to work that hard) but with 0 personality, good sense and chance to be fun for a enemy or a teamate. I found my best mates (talking about both realms) roaming solo and playing casual sc, coz big warbands depersonalize yourself to a role (repetitive and very limited if u are succeed ez).
Different queques for premade and pugs as stated b4 can't happen atm coz of pop, there are yet times it takes quite a bit to pop; but to me this is the only contro.
I know this game is ( at least quantitatively) more focused on group mechanics (6v6 is almost well balanced while 1v1 is less skill related); but leave us solo players be and don't tell a happy player to try such a boring game like the witcher.

Penril
Posts: 4441

Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags

Post#135 » Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:41 pm

Fallout 4 is fcking awesome.

User avatar
peterthepan3
Posts: 6509

Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags

Post#136 » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:08 pm

Scottx125 wrote:To be honest I suggest we try disallowing pre-mades for a week, see peoples opinions of it and see if quality of play for pubbies increases, if it does then thats grand for everyone, perhaps not for people wanting to play together but for everyone individually it will balance the board from random pubby team skill level vs defined pre-made skill level

So you want to discourage people from playing scenarios in effective groups (as the game was intended) because of your own inability to form groups, and insistence on doing scenarios as a solo player?
You want to disallow people from trying to win scenarios, essentially.

The most simple of solutions has been echoed several times: get a group and play with them. Scenarios are NOT for solo players - as has been mentioned several times, and has been indicative in the recent changes RoR has implemented in scenarios.

If you want a solo experience, either roam the lakes or play a FPS.
Image

User avatar
Scottx125
Posts: 974

Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags

Post#137 » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:29 pm

peterthepan3 wrote:So you want to discourage people from playing scenarios in effective groups (as the game was intended) because of your own inability to form groups, and insistence on doing scenarios as a solo player?
You want to disallow people from trying to win scenarios, essentially.

The most simple of solutions has been echoed several times: get a group and play with them. Scenarios are NOT for solo players - as has been mentioned several times, and has been indicative in the recent changes RoR has implemented in scenarios.

If you want a solo experience, either roam the lakes or play a FPS.
Big difference between inability and not wanting to, I find solo queuing far more fun vs non-premades. And if you want group combat, with competitive play, why don't you go play DOTA 2 or CSGO. And this is not disallowing anyone from winning, it merely makes both teams have a random probability of winning instead of having premades which wipe the floor with pubbies. And if scenarios are not for solo players why is there an ability to queue solo? I'll tell you why because it is a method for people to quickly get into PVP without needing to go to RVR lakes and for people who prefer smaller engagements rather than 50v50 warband fights.
Arslan wrote:Well my friend, if you want to play alone, Witcher 3 is the game you will enjoy greatly these days. Son of lonely gameplay, do you know how fun it is to play with people you know say jokes etc while doing well? I have met people with whom I was premading 5 years ago and it is sooo great to see them again and play with them. And they are really good!
Ty for answering my question I had no idea what the resemblence was!
Not alone, with random people not in premade groups. And I've played the Witcher 3 on hardest difficulty and newgame+ :P. And I don't doubt it, but for people who don't want premade groups, premades just ruin the gameplay experience for them.
Spoiler:
Seiigfrid RR 8X WP | Arthasus RR 7X KOTBS | Zalthazar RR 5X BW
Image
For the Gif in it's full glory:
Now a member of Oath.

User avatar
peterthepan3
Posts: 6509

Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags

Post#138 » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:34 pm

Your finding solo queuing more fun does not negate from the fact that: a) scenarios are intended to be small-scale group vs group; b) if you want to succeed in scenarios, you should try to form a premade. This encourages group synergy, improves your gameplay, etc. Solo queuing doesn't really promote group synergy, nor does it encourage people to play to win to the same degree.

CSGO is an FPS that revolves around de_dust2 24/7 (my younger brother plays that religiously, and is one of the top players =P), it also bores me. Warhammer offers the best 6v6 stuff available, that's why I love it. When I want to play competitive 1v1/2v2/3v3 I play WoW. Different games for different types of PvP.
Image

Ads
User avatar
Rebuke
Posts: 388

Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags

Post#139 » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:36 pm

Scottx125 wrote:So you want to discourage people from playing scenarios in effective groups (as the game was intended) because of your own inability to form groups, and insistence on doing scenarios as a solo player?
You want to disallow people from trying to win scenarios, essentially.

The most simple of solutions has been echoed several times: get a group and play with them. Scenarios are NOT for solo players - as has been mentioned several times, and has been indicative in the recent changes RoR has implemented in scenarios.

If you want a solo experience, either roam the lakes or play a FPS.
Big difference between inability and not wanting to, I find solo queuing far more fun vs non-premades. And if you want group combat, with competitive play, why don't you go play DOTA 2 or CSGO.
Arslan wrote:Well my friend, if you want to play alone, Witcher 3 is the game you will enjoy greatly these days. Son of lonely gameplay, do you know how fun it is to play with people you know say jokes etc while doing well? I have met people with whom I was premading 5 years ago and it is sooo great to see them again and play with them. And they are really good!
Ty for answering my question I had no idea what the resemblence was!
Not alone, with random people not in premade groups. And I've played the Witcher 3 on hardest difficulty and newgame+ :P. And I don't doubt it, but for people who don't want premade groups, premades just ruin the gameplay experience for them.
It goes the other way around aswell mate; for people who want premade groups, pugs just ruin the gameplay experience for them.

Ninepaces
Posts: 313

Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags

Post#140 » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:40 pm

Scottx125 wrote:
Arslan wrote:You should also try to become a good player. You may not belong to a guild, but if you get the attention of some good premade due to your skill you will soon find yourself aming their company. This has happenned to me qute some times in the past. The best part was when Krieb-Invommingray-Tmooney etc saw me solo gannking in Reikland and for 1 month we played together. Never lost a single scen or fight vs rr80 premades or anything. But I had worked hard to be a part of their group. And solo queued for months.
I find it amazing how some people can't get it into their heads that some people do not want to be part of pre-mades. They want to queue up for a scenario, and enjoy a balanced match without having to face pre-mades which more often then not stomp randoms. The beauty of scenarios in my opinion is a quick match of PVP in a smaller more controlled enviroment, and is something to fall back on when there is no ORVR battles going on. To be honest I suggest we try disallowing pre-mades for a week, see peoples opinions of it and see if quality of play for pubbies increases, if it does then thats grand for everyone, perhaps not for people wanting to play together but for everyone individually it will balance the board from random pubby team skill level vs defined pre-made skill level. Then if there is enough desire for pre-mades PVP or guild vs guild pvp then events can be made. The only real useful reason for making pre-mades at the moment is playing with friends and farming pubbies.
Arslan wrote:What is the resemblence between a premade and a earring?
One sucks for pubbies and the other hurts your ear and brings you 1 step closer to being a cyborg.
you're joking right? queing solo rarely results in a balanced match. sometimes you have no heals. sometimes too many healers. sometimes no dps. sometimes people are just bad or have no gear and are **** around at lvl 25 trying to leech rr/exp off of better players. Remember BOTH sides need to have balanced teams in order for the sc to be balanced or else one side stomps the other. When a premade queues, they auto insure one side has a balanced group, so they are cutting the rate of unbalanced scs by half.

I know the real reason why you don't want to be in a premade. You WANT imbalance. You solo queue into an sc and hope your team is better than the other so you can stomp and get free stuff. You want free medallions and emblems without having to work for them and you're just angry you cant get them off of a premade. Thats where the hate is coming from. This whole balance reasoning you brought up is flawed bullshit you're hiding behind to cover the fact you're a cowardly bad player who can't be bothered to play and prepare well enough to earn stuff. You and all the puggers who join zerging wbs all love imbalance. In oRVR you join warbands so you can organize all the plebs together in one zerg in the hope your zerg is better than the other zerg and you can get some loot. Its the premades that fight realm pop imbalance, especially in oRVR, because its only them that even consider trying to fight 6v12-24. So please, take your holier-than-thou attitude and shove it up your ass. I know what kind of scumbag player you are and you're not fooling me.

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 12 guests