Reset WL Pounce

[Nanji]

But even without pounce the white lion would still be viabe: pet stun and insane burst makes it viable because they have a niche role (small scale ganking) do YOU know what viable means?
It looks like you want white lion to be COMPETITIVE with slayer. Totally different.

You failed to get what viable means right here.
If WL is inferior to slayer why should I take a WL?
Inferior doesnt mean that the strenghts are just elsewhere. WL and SL usually compete for a spot in a meleegrp.
The ability to not being knockbacked at all made him a valid choice.

Yes the nerf got reverted but even considering to nerf WL because some baddies were whining says a lot.

[Aceboltz]

viable adjective /ˈvaɪ.ə.bl̩/
" able to ​work as ​intended or ​able to ​succeed"
So, if people roll wl to make what the class is designed for, ie: small scale gank group, and people find success doing this, the class is viable by definition.

You say WL is inferior to slayer, this is really true in a 6v6 environnement, but something you guys fail to understand is that nothing in war is tailored for 6V6, just nothing: rvr is big numbers fights, sc are 12v12, city siege have bigger numbers in each instance. What's left? pve? big deal. You basically look like you want the wl to be as good as a slayer in a 6-man group but slayer would never be good without guard and 2x heal, no small group gank for them.

So basically being lofty and assuming everybody outside of gonk/nigma is just **** and don't have your superior mental abilities is your way to be? Do we really need a game balanced by such monkeys?

[Nanji]

viable adjective /ˈvaɪ.ə.bl̩/
" able to ​work as ​intended or ​able to ​succeed"

You said it yourself.
Able to work as intended, WL was able to pounce back from kb on mythics servers. Intended by their devs I assume.
WTF are you argueing about then?

[Aceboltz]

Sorry YOU said wl is not viable, not "pounce is not viable".

So the problem is this: if we want wl to compete with slayer for that 2nd mdps slot, by changing healdebuff from out to inc for example, we end up with a snare and bump immune slayer who just wrecks everything outside of his guard easily and becomes the greatest solo class in a not 1v1 game as a nice addition. An op class.

Finding the good balance will be hard and a long work of trial and error. We need civil discussion representing all the point of view of the player base, not personal attacks and loftiness. Sorry if I have been rude.

[Nanji]

With a pounce nerf as a precondition.

Learn to read issue mate.

[Euan]

Even with the nerf on knockback, pounce would still be too good. Not that I want it nerfed.

[Morf]

@Morf
Mhm like you completly ignored the fact destru has better kiters to balance out the order anti kite tools.

And if someone points out your bias you just move to another thread to spill it there.

So because 2 classes have a tactic that grants 30% move speed on a 25% proc chance, you label the whole realm as being better kiters ? i will say again, its alot easier to kite on order then it is destro, its not speculation or a myth, i experience it myself having played order for a long period of time.

But why would anyone call me biased when its not the case ?

Ever posted sth different than useless suggestions and butthurt flame?
I also would like to know the name of those ppl, guess you cant deliver anyways.

Flame posts get a flame answer and maybe force the gms to delete those so I would suggest you refrain from posting them in the first place. Being compared to silvermf is your own fault, your posts are just too similar. :^)

My posts are often constructive but it seems when your band show up it goes the wrong way, weird how im not the only one...
These ppl discuss stuff away from the forums in private, an environment where you dont get egotistical maniacs like yourself who are incapable of having an adult discussion/debate, funny how without your band and a few other fools ppl act like adults and have solid discussions.
You are welcome to judge me how you like but when you say nonsense dam right im gona tell you otherwise, by the same method i could compare you to silverwf because the bs that comes out of both your mouths, but unlike yourself im not foolish and dont have a band to come to the forums and say the same nonsense, to appear as if it holds weight.

It might not be what you want to hear but some ppl have more experience/knowledge of the game then yourself

thanks god you're non of them.

Sorry to break it to you but i am.

Marauder is here to counter that, or at least that I have been told for years when I asked why kotbs/sw/am, etc are allowed to be so OP. So here we are: EA poor attempt at balance.

told by SilverWF, Tesq, Morfee, Euan and some more acknowledged forum legends of warhammer. great source

Since when did i say or agree with this ? or did i get under your skin by showing that your band are all egotistical maniacs so you think to try and discredit me with lies ? guess i hit a nerve.
Also for the record i was hardly a forum visitor on the live game, i done my talking ingame, if only the same could be said for you, atleast you get to shine on an alpha version of the game, congrats m8.

[Mez]

Still someone didnt get what viable means.

On mythics servers, WLs were rarely taken into grps even though they could pounce back from kb.
Slayer was too strong making WL not a viable choice for the majority.

Got it?

Well, white lion was a better choice in SC if you had a shadow warrior. It's also better in RvR for obvious reasons, if not zerg busting. Or it was a must have if zerg surfing for Fetch.

Hmm, I just gave 3 reasons it wasnt just viable, but preferred.

[Coryphaus]

If the problem is sl > wl

then perhaps you should tone back the effectiveness of double slayer

[Nanji]

blablabla

Not constructive, just flame.
I think you need a break.