Return of Reckoning

nocturnalguest wrote: ↑Tue Apr 15, 2025 11:50 am Well, reading stuff and especially the post above (which is most likely a troll one, but im taking a bait) has lead me to a conclusion - if we'd actually prioritize and weighten factors of why new player suffers all those minor issues like gear, experience, skill etc they would be far beyond a fact that amount of myths and urban legends spread all around in game/discord/forums is making most devastating damage into new player experience, hah

What is troll about it, I'm actually confused lol. That a new player find can find a game frustrating?

While premade keeps farmin newbies and pug in scs this game will never be for new players.
And also the solo q dont matter since it never pops anyway.

I haven't logged in in over a week and I feel alright. Still playing with my friends just not this. The delusion levels are insanely high here, that one guy assuming a legitimate complaint mirrored dozens of times by various players is "bait".

M3z wrote: ↑Tue Apr 15, 2025 11:35 amI picked WE not knowing it was nerfed to oblivion(by Devs who apparently only play the other faction? lmao AND LET ME GUESS WITCH HUNTER WASN'T NERFED)...

You are operating under a misconception. I could explain it, but suffice it to say your assumption here is incorrect.

cfsmain wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 6:23 pm I haven't logged in in over a week and I feel alright. Still playing with my friends just not this. The delusion levels are insanely high here, that one guy assuming a legitimate complaint mirrored dozens of times by various players is "bait".

And this is why change will most likely never happen at all. The level of delusion on this forum is unmatched.

I've already given up on this, just as I'm going to give up on the game again now, and I'm sure many others will too in the next few weeks.

The final straw was last night in RvR. Well, the order took over everything and it was very frustrating. But the worst were the individual experiences. I couldn't get into three WBs because there were too many healers in them. While farming crates, I kept getting killed by the same WH with just three hits... that's 8000 damage in three attacks. Later, a single archmage killed me and three other fresh level 40s with Devastor gear. Now please explain to me how this game is fair?

NO, IT IS NOT and anyone who says that is is such an over-equipped person and a complete failure in real life.

geezereur wrote: ↑Tue Apr 15, 2025 2:08 pm While premade keeps farmin newbies and pug in scs this game will never be for new players.
And also the solo q dont matter since it never pops anyway.

And when it pops its 3vs5. Peak gameplay.

Rabenfeder wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 4:39 am I've already given up on this, just as I'm going to give up on the game again now, and I'm sure many others will too in the next few weeks.

The final straw was last night in RvR. Well, the order took over everything and it was very frustrating. But the worst were the individual experiences. I couldn't get into three WBs because there were too many healers in them. While farming crates, I kept getting killed by the same WH with just three hits... that's 8000 damage in three attacks. Later, a single archmage killed me and three other fresh level 40s with Devastor gear. Now please explain to me how this game is fair?

NO, IT IS NOT and anyone who says that is is such an over-equipped person and a complete failure in real life.

When WH atacks you, use double pot, (one craft or pve pot, and one for crests, they got different CD) and detaunt, and always turn around with him, dont show your back. meanwhile you heal yourself. keep detaunt up. His first atacks got the strongest impact, after these he is "out of ammo" and will leave the fight if he cant kill you.

Again, this is anther good example of skill issue, and why experience is > gear. Because, even if you are in full sov, he would have killed you easyly, cause you didnt know how to do the right things to counter a WE/WH atack...

To counter AM or Shaman, use hot-pot and flee. break line of sight. you cant do much against it, if the AM player dont do a mistake.
With 3 players you should be able to kill him somehow, if the setup isnt too bad.

New players have to understand, that this game is not as easy as it looks like on first view. many new players come here from wow or other casual pvp games and think they start as pro because of their experience. Then they are disappointed when they fail, and think everything is a balance issue, or gear, or whatever reason. but in 80% of the complaints in forum its a skill issue, again and again. And when experienced players come to tell you about it, they get blamed for deny the problems, wich ofc only the new players realize and see clearly...

Rabenfeder wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 4:39 am I've already given up on this, just as I'm going to give up on the game again now, and I'm sure many others will too in the next few weeks.

The final straw was last night in RvR. Well, the order took over everything and it was very frustrating. But the worst were the individual experiences. I couldn't get into three WBs because there were too many healers in them. While farming crates, I kept getting killed by the same WH with just three hits... that's 8000 damage in three attacks. Later, a single archmage killed me and three other fresh level 40s with Devastor gear. Now please explain to me how this game is fair?

NO, IT IS NOT and anyone who says that is is such an over-equipped person and a complete failure in real life.

This game is super easy and player friendly from the very start rank 1 to rank 15. Then at rank 16 and again (harder) at rank 40, new players will start to realize, how little they know and how bad their playstyle is.
Many players these days are not used to invest significant time and energy to learn the game past rank 16, and these will leave no matter what, while the rest will learn, adapt and in time these will become veterans. It's natural player/people behavior and I don't think it will ever change.

Warhammer (RoR) is an old school game. If you Rabenfeder are "kept getting killed by the same WH" several times, it is your fault, not the game one.
Maybe as a relative new healer class, you are NOT supposed to win against maxed veteran WH player, who is specialized in 1 vs 1 and ambushes you from shadows.
BUT you could change the circumstances so it doesn't happen again. (bring friends, join WB, go somewhere else and remember your enemy name, permanent mark him, so you can get your revenge in the future).

Thanks for both comments. I couldn't have described better how little you understand about getting started with the game, how wrong all your claims are, and what a shame it is for those who put so much work into this. You're the poison, on the server and in the forum. Thank you so much for that.