[Ironbreaker] The Crucible: Class discussion and guides

[xtc1999]

If Slayer/WH becomes a thing again, or double slayer, we will also see IB become more popular.

BT runs 2 IB 2 SL 2 RP parties when possible, and i have to say those are pretty fun and effective to play. Need some coordination though.

I witnessed a similar group trying to do a BL boss yesterday, they struggled for 10-15mins.

[12point]

Sweet revenge tactic doesn't seem to be working. Neither paper doll or getstat values change in combat above 50 grudge

nm didn't realize there was a general crit chance stat

[Asherdoom]

what about this spec for full tank iron breaker?
http://www.ror.builders/career/ironbrea ... 65,3772&t=

[bloodi]

what about this spec for full tank iron breaker?
http://www.ror.builders/career/ironbrea ... 65,3772&t=

Why? You are putting all your points into the dps tree.

Furthermore, Grudge born fury is terrible, no joke, is the worst channel in the game in a game where channeled skills are already considered bad.

http://www.ror.builders/career/ironbrea ... 72,3779&t=

Will work better just because at least you get a spell shield, there is no reason to go past Greataxe Mastery and a lot of people would argue that going past Cave in is already a bad idea.

[Asherdoom]

what about this spec for full tank iron breaker?
http://www.ror.builders/career/ironbrea ... 65,3772&t=

Why? You are putting all your points into the dps tree.

Furthermore, Grudge born fury is terrible, no joke, is the worst channel in the game in a game where channeled skills are already considered bad.

http://www.ror.builders/career/ironbrea ... 72,3779&t=

Will work better just because at least you get a spell shield, there is no reason to go past Greataxe Mastery and a lot of people would argue that going past Cave in is already a bad idea.

sorry i copied wrong lin k!!!!

i was using something like this:

http://www.ror.builders/career/ironbrea ... 75,3779&t=

[GodlessCrom]

Pretty sure overprotective is awful. Heal debuff and earthshatter are both more important by far.

[Asherdoom]

insta healdebuff something that dps should put? i did not take overprotective at all. i take spell shield due to world load of sorcerer and shamans destro has in these days.

[bloodi]

sorry i copied wrong lin k!!!!

i was using something like this:

http://www.ror.builders/career/ironbrea ... 75,3779&t=

Only go for stone if you are doing Gunbad, Oathstone is quite good there so is shield mastery.

If you are not doing pve, forget that spec and go for the cookie cutter one.

http://www.ror.builders/career/ironbrea ... ,3752,3742

[Asherdoom]

so basically no knock back for AOE snare? and healdebuff isn't something BW and lions should put on target instead of us? so we can take also dwarf racial increased armor )so we benefit from armor+though tactics)

[bloodi]

so basically no knock back for AOE snare? and healdebuff isn't something BW and lions should put on target instead of us? so we can take also dwarf racial increased armor )so we benefit from armor+though tactics)

BW healdebuff is incoming, IB is outgoing, different things. Besides that, BW healdebuff is terrible, slayer, WH and SW are the order classes with a decent incoming heal debuff.

IB and WL have outgoing healdebuffs, meaning they only work when you apply them on healers,you can debuff 4 healers and keep it up on them thanks to the 20 secs duration 5 secs cd, sometimes if you are solo pugging you can win scs with that.

You can always not get it and get hte spell shield.