[Discussion/Feedback] The Armor Project

[Daknallbomb]

Ok. I'm done with you people. If you can't figure it out based on what I have already provided, then you're just going to fail regardless. So go stack full FS! It wont do anything but make you easier to kill.

Wow rly stfu Dude iam Just asking to Check it because i dont know it.... Dont understand where He get that 9,7 from!

[Bozzax]

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Both lvl 40. No, he did not have 25.7% chance to crit. .getstats works. read my post on page 17. I put out all of the info. And YES you can't get below 0%. That's the point. Robin stated that he could remove all of his opponents chance to crit, and thereby not be crit via going into negative. I tested, and showed this is false.

Read what people write, then comment.

My bet is he had 25.7% chance to crit - your gear and FS

350/360/10 + 16 - your reduction

350/Defender Initiative/10 + (Attackers MeleeCritRate + Attackers CriticalHitRate) - Defender CriticalHitRateReduction

[roadkillrobin]

The zealot convertion is kinda buggy, i would sugest testing with another class with just 1 crit tactic and no additional crit.
Aswell as chevking crit reduction from intitive before speccing into your FS crit reduction.

[Daknallbomb]

What about a test like that attacker 0% crit and the one who get Hit 0% get crit? ? Are a crit than possibel or not?

[Dabbart]

The zealot convertion is kinda buggy, i would sugest testing with another class with just 1 crit tactic and no additional crit.
Aswell as chevking crit reduction from intitive before speccing into your FS crit reduction.

No ****. Thats why we used 1% chance to crit +the 15% crit tactic. Feel free to replicate. But neither I, nor anyone I have asked can recreate negative crit having any affect on your attackers chance to crit.

[Bozzax]

>>> you reduce your attackers % to crit you with all your crit reduction

@Level 40
350/Defender Initiative/10 + (Attackers MeleeCritRate + Attackers CriticalHitRate) - Defender CriticalHitRateReduction

[Dabbart]

FS and ofc you can't go below 0

Why are you arguing with yourself?

The entire point of this, is to determine just that. Can you bring your chance to be crit into negatives, to affect your opponents chance to crit you. My test confirmed this isn't possible. You can quote that equation all you want, but you don't seem to understand how it works. That 9.7% chance to crit? that's my base chance to BE crit. The attacker doesn't get a bonus to crit me. That 9.7% is what is taken out from my gear, and FS.

I don't know what robin did. But he has posted in other threads that you in fact can NOT get negative%s. I feel something is screwy with his test, because nothing anywhere can recreate that.

Jesus... Why am I even trying..

[Dabbart]

Ok. Lemme try to do this in a way everyone can understand. Via my ini and lvl, I had a 9.7% chance to be crit. My attacker had a 16% chance to crit me. I had -33% crit reduction in TOTAL. 9.7+16-33. If the formula calculated negatives, I would not of been crit at all. But I was.

That means your crit rate reduction doesn't affect your opponents chance to crit you. It only lowers your chance to be crit.

I challenge everyone to go test. And see if you can stop anyone from crit ting you. Cause other than Robin on that single test, no one has been able too, including robin on previous tests in previous threads...

[Daknallbomb]

Ok. Lemme try to do this in a way everyone can understand. Via my ini and lvl, I had a 9.7% chance to be crit. My attacker had a 16% chance to crit me. I had -33% crit reduction in TOTAL. 9.7+16-33. If the formula calculated negatives, I would not of been crit at all. But I was.

That means your crit rate reduction doesn't affect your opponents chance to crit you. It only lowers your chance to be crit.

I challenge everyone to go test. And see if you can stop anyone from crit ting you. Cause other than Robin on that single test, no one has been able too, including robin on previous tests in previous threads...

So that means 9,7 % get crit - 33 = - 23,3
Attacker had 16%!
That means Chance to crit The Enemy was - 7,3%!
That means no crit can be done If negativ counts? But He still crits you! So i get it now?

[Dabbart]

Correct. According to my tests, and every single test posted, with the exception of robins in this thread. I don't understand how robin failed to get a single crit with the AAs. Maybe it functions different on AAs. But abilities can still crit, when according to the formula they shouldn't. This supports every single test, except for the one robin posted here...