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Zxul
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Re: Worst class.... WH

Post#191 » Sun May 03, 2020 3:49 am

Feomatar wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 3:45 am Are u retarded or what? if u think that permanent ignoring armor is healthy - u have brain issue, and if u think this is can be viable in competitve - u are lunatic, thats all. NVM i home they buff we and wh, and all server will be we vs wh, u will have a lot of fun where not only one handed clicker imbeciles will play this **** =3
Let me quote an earlier post that I saw here- can u show us on the doll where the stealth class touched you?
"Can we play with him, master? He seems so unhappy. Let us help him smile. Please? Or at least let us carve one on his face when he stops screaming."

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Re: Worst class.... WH

Post#192 » Sun May 03, 2020 4:26 am

Zxul wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 3:49 am
Feomatar wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 3:45 am Are u retarded or what? if u think that permanent ignoring armor is healthy - u have brain issue, and if u think this is can be viable in competitve - u are lunatic, thats all. NVM i home they buff we and wh, and all server will be we vs wh, u will have a lot of fun where not only one handed clicker imbeciles will play this **** =3
Let me quote an earlier post that I saw here- can u show us on the doll where the stealth class touched you?
Ahaha so funny, make this retard joke again))0))))0000000))0000)0
make every class ignore every def stat, it will be so balanced, trust me i'm an engineer! Huehue i want not only press 1 button and win every single 1v1 but i want kill 24 people pressin 5 times button 1 with stealth, stun and 3 backstabs, i wanna feel gooooood, ma'am, make it or i will cry and scream reeeee!

Sulorie
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Re: Worst class.... WH

Post#193 » Sun May 03, 2020 9:42 am

So you are a tank or some other armor stacking class and you die during knockdown?
Is that correct?
Make some fact checks. I see nobody else complaining about them and there are probably more shadow warriors than WH on server. Same goes for WE, they are not overrepresented.

When you are a tank, you are supposed to have 8,5-9k health, this alone makes it impossible to drop below 50% health during kd. Then you get up, CC the attacker, take pot and start to defend yourself.
When you die on any char during kd, you are too weak. When you are weak, don't go alone.
Dying is no option.

Draugris
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Re: Worst class.... WH

Post#194 » Sun May 03, 2020 12:08 pm

Feomatar wrote: Sat May 02, 2020 6:49 pm
Sulorie wrote: Sat May 02, 2020 6:38 pm Who dies by 3 backstabs of wh/we? You Feomatar?
Retard literally clicks on half of skills and kill everything by backstabs in cc and after cc even dont try to backhits and just press it in face... This classes are op in hands of 80 iq monkeys and u ant it be buffed...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-UV8s2zD1o
I know you have your opinion about we/wh and I am not trying to convince you otherwise. A few things you should consider. Almost all fights in this Video are initiated by the WE from stealth where she should have the opportunity, that window is not big, 30 seconds. If you are not in stealth or cannot stealth, you are pretty much done. Second, please do not judge things by Videos. You are unable to see the Renown Ranks of the people somebody fought and what gear they have. And third, if you see a video from somebody who is recording when he kills lowbie pre 40 characters and is cutting out his own deaths, well you should think about whether you can take that video seriously. Lastly, one word of advice and I played a WH on live exclusively for a few years, if you think that stealth classes in Warhammer are OP, level one yourself, I do not mean that as meme, seriously try it. Levelling the classes I thought are completely busted helped me a lot understanding.
Live: Carroburg -> Santorro (WH), The first Guard (TfG)

PieTreBlu
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Re: Worst class.... WH

Post#195 » Sun May 03, 2020 1:21 pm

People will never have a fair, unbiased opinion on stealth classes because by nature stealth is an "unfair" mechanic. The whole point is to be able to pick and choose your fights, which on average will be against people you think you will have more than a 50% of winning. Add to that that they need to be high burst/cc classes to work as assassins and you have a recipe for a class that is brokenly op in duels or at the very least very frustrating to play against. Either you love them and play one or you absolutely loathe the archetype, hard to find a middle ground.

Which I guess is why Mythic was initially against implementing it in the game (and why it makes little sense for WH/WE to have a stealth mechanic to begin with as neither are stealthy assassins lorewise).

TBH I would be more interested in knowing what the devs think is (or should be) the place of WH/WE in the game because it seems that even the player base is quite divided on the matter (aside from those that just want their class buffed).

Are they supposed to be solo roamers that just gank and nuke people in the backlines or returning to the battle from warcamp/bringing supplies back to the keep or should they actually have a place in an organized wb and in cities beside the odd friend you bring along as a morale drain bot/single target nuker?

jokerspsycho
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Re: Worst class.... WH

Post#196 » Sun May 03, 2020 4:14 pm

Gonna say, if a WH is killing you from opener > 3s stun and u die before you get up, that's a you problem.

You are likely facing a player at the top of the gear food chain and are either:

a) fresh player so your gear is crap.
b) you have built completely glass cannon, ignoring wounds and stuffing RR into main stats instead of FS to not get your face critted off.

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Re: Worst class.... WH

Post#197 » Sun May 03, 2020 4:47 pm

jokerspsycho wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 4:14 pm Gonna say, if a WH is killing you from opener > 3s stun and u die before you get up, that's a you problem.

You are likely facing a player at the top of the gear food chain and are either:

a) fresh player so your gear is crap.
b) you have built completely glass cannon, ignoring wounds and stuffing RR into main stats instead of FS to not get your face critted off.
5k armor what doiesnt work against this crap cause REASONS, deff renown, can kill it only if get this **** out stealth twice with my 2 30s cd aoe abilities and mirror stun. But all retards like you thing that "oh wh\we is weak in city so its ok that it oneshot in roaming.... but i want be viable in city now AND WITHOUT nerfing my 1v1 oneshoting BECAUSE REASONS (monny's boy wants press 1 button to win!).
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Re: Worst class.... WH

Post#198 » Sun May 03, 2020 4:49 pm

NVM, will ignore your moronic delusion, but devs is NOT an idiot's like you, and they wont make this **** viable in city without nerfing this ignoring 100% armor without cd.

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Zxul
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Re: Worst class.... WH

Post#199 » Sun May 03, 2020 4:52 pm

Feomatar wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 4:47 pm 5k armor what doiesnt work against this crap cause REASONS, deff renown, can kill it only if get this **** out stealth twice with my 2 30s cd aoe abilities and mirror stun. But all retards like you thing that "oh wh\we is weak in city so its ok that it onehit in roaming.... but i want be viable in city now AND WITHOUT nerfing my 1v1 oneshotin BECAUSE REASONS (monny's boy wants press 1 button to win!).
As someone who doesn't gets onehit by whs despite them trying, problem isn't the whs, its you- you have no idea how to spec your toon.
"Can we play with him, master? He seems so unhappy. Let us help him smile. Please? Or at least let us carve one on his face when he stops screaming."

— Azeila, Alluress of Slaanesh

jokerspsycho
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Re: Worst class.... WH

Post#200 » Sun May 03, 2020 4:53 pm

Feomatar wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 4:47 pm
jokerspsycho wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 4:14 pm Gonna say, if a WH is killing you from opener > 3s stun and u die before you get up, that's a you problem.

You are likely facing a player at the top of the gear food chain and are either:

a) fresh player so your gear is crap.
b) you have built completely glass cannon, ignoring wounds and stuffing RR into main stats instead of FS to not get your face critted off.
5k armor what doiesnt work against this crap cause REASONS, deff renown, can kill it only if get this **** out stealth twice with my 2 30s cd aoe abilities and mirror stun. But all retards like you thing that "oh wh\we is weak in city so its ok that it oneshot in roaming.... but i want be viable in city now AND WITHOUT nerfing my 1v1 oneshoting BECAUSE REASONS (monny's boy wants press 1 button to win!).
Ig you are getting one shot on a tank, again, you're a fresh 40, or ur bad at stat allocation. This is actually a l2p issue buddy. If your that poorly geared or just that bad at pvp, don't solo roam.

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