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Soulcheg
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Re: Archmage - Not OP though

Post#21 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:26 am

TooGraphic wrote:I tried to eat spaghetti with a spoon and it didn't work. Nerf spaghetti.
It might be learn 2 eat issue.
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Re: Archmage - Not OP though

Post#22 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:35 am

More dps AM for the rdps meta yaaaaay !

vove
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Re: Archmage - Not OP though

Post#23 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:01 am

If you want to compare your dps with another healer chose runepriest and if you want to compare yourself with am reroll shaman.

Archmage is fine. As a zealot it's not your job to do dmg.

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Re: Archmage - Not OP though

Post#24 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:29 am

Buff AM's, don't listen pure healbots :D

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Deadpoet
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Re: Archmage - Not OP though

Post#25 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 12:19 pm

Granted that AMs can never deal as much damage as BWs so they will never take a spot in premades and this game is not about 1v1 and blah blah blah, yeah I know.

I only have a doubt: Why is a healer archetype allowed to deal that kind of sustained damage? I guess it all comes from an original design of giving AM the possibility to heal other through damage (ranged equivalent of melee healing). The reality is AMs damage ends up healing mostly themselves, so the purpose isnt achieved. And the upshot is we have a vastly OP class in terms of 1v1. Ok, I know no one should care about 1v1 (although many ppl do but not the ones who run premades and live mentally in t4), but my approach to the game is not centered about 6v6, but about risk vs reward, and I think AMs are unfairly designed right now. And another question. Why does a healer has such an array of tools (AP drain, debuff resist, stats debuff, snare) when other healers can only dream of them and have shitty cc compared to them?

Imo AMs should be buffed healing and survivabilty wise to allow them to be as desirable as WPs or RP as healers of a group and severely nerfed in terms of damage, cos right now there is no justification for that kind of damage without risk.

And no I havent died to any AMs, as I play a SW:)

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Ritualis
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Re: Archmage - Not OP though

Post#26 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 12:29 pm

I guess only Order players read/troll/flame the forums, more bias, more bias.

I know that Zealot is not a dps class this is not the point, even if I were to 'try' and out-heal this damage its not possible because of the unbalanced nature of destro and order here, at rank 18 I have 331 willpower my HoT heals for 200-ish my direct heal for 800-ish, this guy hit for 2000 just with his DoT.

Defending this class over and over again just shows that nobody really played Live Warhammer although AM were powerful in Live they were not this batsh*t crazy.

All my opinions ofc.
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Ritualis
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Re: Archmage - Not OP though

Post#27 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 12:30 pm

Scrilian wrote:Looks like someone just died to AM, might be a L2P issue.
You remind me of a troll from /advice, like them however you have nothing of actual value to say though.
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Re: Archmage - Not OP though

Post#28 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 1:01 pm

Ritualis wrote:I guess only Order players read/troll/flame the forums, more bias, more bias.

I know that Zealot is not a dps class this is not the point, even if I were to 'try' and out-heal this damage its not possible because of the unbalanced nature of destro and order here, at rank 18 I have 331 willpower my HoT heals for 200-ish my direct heal for 800-ish, this guy hit for 2000 just with his DoT.

Defending this class over and over again just shows that nobody really played Live Warhammer although AM were powerful in Live they were not this batsh*t crazy.

All my opinions ofc.
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balogna
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Re: Archmage - Not OP though

Post#29 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 2:00 pm

Ritualis wrote:I guess only Order players read/troll/flame the forums, more bias, more bias.

I know that Zealot is not a dps class this is not the point, even if I were to 'try' and out-heal this damage its not possible because of the unbalanced nature of destro and order here, at rank 18 I have 331 willpower my HoT heals for 200-ish my direct heal for 800-ish, this guy hit for 2000 just with his DoT.

Defending this class over and over again just shows that nobody really played Live Warhammer although AM were powerful in Live they were not this batsh*t crazy.

All my opinions ofc.

Yes a Zealot will probably eventually die to a AM, just like a RP will eventually die to a shaman.

Keep detaunts up, heal and wait for the cavalry. The RP/Zealot way.

There were a few Really good AMs on live that would've made ya say bat-**** crazy then too. Probably one of the most powerful order toons on live when played to the level a few guys did it. Never played the class myself

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Re: Archmage - Not OP though

Post#30 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 2:23 pm

Ritualis wrote:
Scrilian wrote:Looks like someone just died to AM, might be a L2P issue.
You remind me of a troll from /advice, like them however you have nothing of actual value to say though.
That's literally a repost of some desto from the Nerf SH thread, a bit of their own medicine so to speak :mrgreen:
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