I am too bad for T4 premade. How win as pug?

[Eathisword]

I'm with Peter. If you have any question NA time, pm me. I'll even ''premade'' with you. We can be a duo premade.

[lawfol]

Just play your AM,Skalier...you are not too bad on that one

[Ninepaces]

to opening post:

you need some people to sit down with you for 30 minutes and teach u the basics. everyone goes through the learning curve.

[Kali14]

The main subject of this topic is not what to do to become good player and play in premade, only how defeat premade as pug. Unfornatelly nobody of you don't know and you want learn me how to play. No thanks.

[roadkillrobin]

The answear is actually in your question.
If you get kicked from premades from being to bad you neeed to ask em what you did wrong and learn from there. If you only get "coz you suck" back after they kick you they are probobly not the kind of people you wanna play with anyway.

[Kali14]

The subject is how win as pug against premade. Ok now I listen, teach me.

[saupreusse]

Winning against Premades with only a pug party is nearly impossible. Premades will try to max their effectiveness while pugs are just going to play the way they want. Also they will use teamspeak most likely, So beating a premade as pug really is just a dream. If every player has the same skill level, a premade will always have a communcation/assisting bonus.
Edit: that's why I would love to see a pug only scenario to test if it's working better.

[Penril]

And that's how it should be. Organized players deserve to beat unorganized enemies.

Is it fair facing premades all the time when you are solo/pugging? That is a different topic for a different discussion... there is already a thread about Pug-only SC.

[StormX2]

yah i pretty much refuse to solo queue. too many SC's where we will have no healers, and they will have plenty. it seems to work this way no matter what side I play lol. unfortunately hard to find a good premade for NA 7pm-11pm.


I want a Pug onlyy SC, as long as people get disciplined if they try to break the point of the pug only, by solo queuing whole warbands worth of people in Comms

[Kali14]

Ok but still nobody except Norkali don't tell me what to do to win when I Q as pug and meet destro premade in scenario. For example I am Enginner 37/35 lvl and I don't think anybody want me in his premade so make Q solo and have time to play only during prime time when 50% destro play as premade. What can do to take some points and grab few medalions or even win.