bring back T2 and T3

[Mcz]

My best experience was when i was 20-31. Why? Because i made sure to keep gear as close to lvl, use talismans, potions...everything u should always be doing. The Bolster makes u incredibly strong.
Main problem isnt rank RR or Gear gap, main problem is people not investing time to learn the game mechanics ( basics) or make group.
Playing my lowbies last few days all i see is dps tank that dont even have guard skill on hotbars probably or dps healers...So yes if u face a team with tanks guarding dps and healers healing u get owned hard.

[Yaliskah]

Again, Grobbok, pointed the lag issue to invoke tiers separation.
Point is lag issue is not a zone pop issue. It is a DB access one.
If we had XXX zones, with a single player in each doing things, it would do the same i guess.

As far i understand, a part of the team is focused to enhance/fix/rework this DB access.

Give us time please to adapt (more than 7 days...).

[Sabertooth]

Hello everyone i always talked little on the forum despite being an old player but I agree with those who say that they must separate the Tier, first because there is too much chaos and the new players (but also the old) do not understand anything in the rvr, second because with the separation of the tiers there are more fights balanced and you understand better the mechanics of your class and third with all the gear end-game that has been inserted and the hight rank there is too much disparity with the beginners.

[Sulorie]

Hello everyone i always talked little on the forum despite being an old player but I agree with those who say that they must separate the Tier, first because there is too much chaos and the new players (but also the old) do not understand anything in the rvr, second because with the separation of the tiers there are more fights balanced and you understand better the mechanics of your class and third with all the gear end-game that has been inserted and the hight rank there is too much disparity with the beginners.

When you enter T4 at rank 40 with rr50, you are no lowrank anymore. Players have the choice to stay longer in T2-3 in order to learn the basics until they join the big boys.
Rushing to 40 for "endgame" is a player made problem.

[Torintinhammer]

Decrying peoples gear and skills in T2 is a bit harsh.

Ran a guild called Da' Heavy Choppas back in the day and we used T2 to train guild members on setting up their skill bars, learning crafting, running PQ's and SC's, PvP including keep defense, etc. Even in T1 we would take new members through the inevitable city to get their initial gear. Much better to have a guild mate helping than playing "Warhammer Web Search Online".

If you believe lowbie skills and gear are a problem feel free to start a guild and help people gear and skill up.

But given the current state of tiers there is really no good place to teach the end game basics and grind PvP gear. Would hate to have to roll against 100 players in T2 for scout medallions, especially if many are 40/XX.

Edited due to bad english, changed threw to through.

[Wam]

when there are almost 3000 ppl on the server, maybe we should split the campaign between T2 and T3 again, as it was in the original game
upgrade on server give us almost nothing, lag still is and will be even bigger when all this ppl from t1 jump right into t4 fight

No offense, but what are you gonna propose monday or tuesday when x2 will end and all those Pre T2+ players will be 32+? limit Tiers 4 to 40 only? Slice tiers per ranks :p ? Slow overall progression (after how many years of complains about a toooooo slowwwww progression) ?

If there are 2k+ ppl and if they all stay, there will be a moment where they will be in T4. In a manner or another, and it is a matter of days. I'm not sure re-introducing T2-3 gonna change anything in an quite short term. Moving back would take more time to deploy than the time those players are gonna take to reach 40 in the next days.

nobody has a crystal ball so its hard to know how much of new players will stick around, how many will continue to make new characters and learn etc

t2-t4 merged when those zones was barely used at all outside maybe 2 hours during eu primetime even with debolster and some carrots to get gear there... it was needed and helped freshen up the campaign from KV KV KV KV... multiple same zone day after day stalemates.

I think maybe t1-t2 should be merged... and t3-t4 merged in orvr enviroment... or t1, t2 their own entity, t3-t4 merged.

So lowbies/newbies can have more of a learning experience away from the big boys... but its hard to tell if they will educate themselves or just stay in norsca fighting over one bo after zone as locked...

if you take away t2-t3 zones also, means more cities guaranteed and more zerging, easier to lock pairing and more people in same zone will be pretty bad for sieges so that also has to come into some consideration.

Also long term, if the middle zones get changed, what happens when everyones mains passes through them and they don't alt or run out of alts... it will dry up again and be back with same problem as in the past so its tricky solution long term. A minor issue which might always exist.

right now people are hype and bandwagon... but when the dust settles hard to see if this is a priority for dev's to spend their resources(time) on compared to other issues which are maybe more pressing and require more attention.

[Deathbroker]

This is wishful thinking but if we get Land of the Dead sometime soon it might help spread T4 pop out if we get a big influx of 40+ folks. Im sure the powers that be are concentrating more on server stability and getting the cities humming before moving on but it sure would be kick ass.

[deathy]

Been playing lvl 30 to 32 and I am boolster up lvl 37

[Tom]

New player here, so I don't understand everything clearly, but would it be possible to do separate T2 T3 Scenarios tiers and then leave oRvR merged T2-T4? That would give players the chance to practice in T2 and T3 Scenarios against players with equivalent skill sets and gear, but keep oRvR popping for the 40/40+ players

There are hardly any gear gaps in T2-3.
What I have seen yesterday, that many people leaving T1 think they have ok-ish gear but in fact, their gear is pretty low for their rank, as they don't know where to buy appropriate gear. E.g. lvl 18 Archmage with Decimator set and many other T1 items up to 10 ranks lower.
This leads to the problem, that the bolster in sc isn't as effective as it could be. Additionally, all those who do a lot pve (pq, quest and just killing mobs) have usually pretty poor gear.

Lower ranked chars have less skills, true but they have stronger skills, as their effect is bolstered as well. Every buff skill, even without spending points in a mastery tree, has a bigger value than later, unless you spend points on it.

I agree gear is part of the problem but not so much they dont know where to get better gear. I believe its also to do with the fact that it seems you can no longerconvert down emblems/medallions to lay your hands on that 2nd or 3rd piece of t2 or even a missing t1 set piece for that matter. If you dont play dps, chances are you dont actually have enough medallions/emblems of the RIGHT tier to purchase the gear, even though you may have a few HIGHER tier medallions/emblems in your bag, but you cant actually convert them until you reach renown ranks several ranks higher then the level/rank to equip the gear.. that seems like an unnecessary hurdle to me, forcing lvl 16+ to step into t4 with medallions in their bag but not able to use them.

[drmordread]

Wait and see what is like after the event and X2 ends. A lot of people will stop playing.