[POLL] Regarding the Stagger durations

[Ototo]

Could this poll be more rigged to give Chosen/KOTBs 5s stagger?

3s for AOE abilities Chosen/KOTBs/Engie/Magus
5s for AOE Morale
9s for ST Morale

I support this.

[noisestorm]

Could this poll be more rigged to give Chosen/KOTBs 5s stagger?

3s for AOE abilities Chosen/KOTBs/Engie/Magus
5s for AOE Morale
9s for ST Morale

Of course my Poll is biased in some sort, but that ought to be the same for everyone creating stuff like that.

"SingleTarget = 9sec ; AoEs = 5sec ; both regardless of Morale or Not" was my obvious choice. 3 second staggers shouldnt even exist imo since its just a waste of immunity and nothing else. A 3 sec "stun" that can be broken at once is just not even worth being specced if you ask me.

[Telen]

Agree with Tesq, Mag/Eng stagger should be at least 6 seconds, the live duration was really short and irrelevant (+ have to be placed/etc).

3 second stagger is very short.

its a non morlae base spec ranged 30ft aoe that has a cd of only 15s. Even at 3s thats pretty good. Even if it was just an interrupt it would be a good ability.

[noisestorm]

My Poll is btw NOT implying that any cooldowns of spells are justified to their current or upcoming? cooldowns! Just be aware of that

[Soulcheg]

Why no "Leave it as it was" point in poll?

[KarlFranz]

Why no "Leave it as it was" point in poll?

+1

[Ototo]

Why no "Leave it as it was" point in poll?

Cause is not the spected answer. The poll answers are clearly viased to increase durations.

[Telen]

My Poll is btw NOT implying that any cooldowns of spells are justified to their current or upcoming? cooldowns! Just be aware of that

Really what you want is a 6s stagger on a 60s cd. Having immunity half the length of the cd and duration 1/10th that would have been a nice clear implementation of staggers. That way non pres could alternate staggers off cd more effectively. The good devs (keaven and kevin) did attempt to make cc more uniform, mostly for the better, but never went back to work out issues with their new system.

[Sulorie]

3 sec staggers are not worth using. Any root or kd would be more or equally dangerous. All they do is to give free immunity.
Before you can do anything meaningful the duration has already ended. 9 sec for aoe is clearly too high, 5 sec is a good middle ground.

Moral CC gives tools to classes, who usually don't have such skills. Having same duration for both normal and moral skills doesn't make them less valuable.

[Tesq]

Morales = 9sec ; SingleTarget = 5sec; AoEs = 3sec

Morales are meant to be game deciders. When morales became so underwhelming end game it had the added effect of making morale building tactics pretty useless too.

With the low ttk at endgame 5s and 3s is more than enough time for staggers.

Always balance to endgame.

This is not the case telenn, we speak about a classes that is not supposed to have a cc if not for defensive purpose,
Also the stag is undefitable this alredy make it very good and auto include. Also it does pure damage to all it hit
So it can both be use as stag/ pure damage + interrupt