RR is sennsless

[Waaghaa]

PS: I have together about 23 charakters , and highest RR of all is RR 47 . And this was grinding month till I lost the fun to play the charakter cause doing the same every day , week , month without variety ... not my thing ; thanks , but No thanks .

I dont understand what you are smoking?

You grind in T1 and once your character reaches lvl 16 it is deleted and you whine about boredom?
You run around in T1 with no keeps, no forts, no city and no dungeons, doing the same stuff over and over. ZZzzzzzZZZZzzz

[Sulorie]

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for example Gear for Choosen :

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Armor from Devastor Set ( last befor RR40 ) : 2360
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I guess you was in a rush, otherwise you wouldn't write such false claims.

[Phantasm]

Spoiler:

I have played " original " Warhammer Online , and it was a GOOD game .
After Warhammer Online - Return of Reckoning has started I was Happs about the game . I have played it with my girlfriend , but have gotten EXTREMLY FRUSTRATED about the system of " RR " kile it is in game now .
RR at now is :
Play 1 or max 2 Charakters and GRING ALWAYS the same Towers ; and that for Years .
Advantage : You get a armory which is IMBA against lower RR-Players , so they will be cannonfooder for such Players . BUT : thats the only advantage !!!
Disadvantage : New Players will be frustrated very soon , so NO NEW PAYERS will join the game evermore . You are nailed to ONE Player to stay on top with the other RR-Heros ( but ALL Chars have there fun ) . You are doing boring GRINDING to stay on top , at cost of fun and game has future !!!

Playing One Charakter to RR 40 is a work , doing that with 24 Chars is insane !!! But better then getting 2 ore more Chars to RR80+
I get bfrustrated and left game one year ago , cause as a DD with RR 47 I have NO CHANCE against a RR80 Player wich ignored my Attacks . I could not make a bit dmg agains a Char of High RR . So why I should GRING month over month to play with otherplayers and make dmg ???
Guildwars has a other taktic , wher the PLAYER and his ABILITY are in front , not only his Armor . So you dont get lost of " lder Payers " but cit of the way for " new Players " !!! But this is game now !!!
Also my girlfriend whishes a reset of RR and a step back to ORIGINAL Warhammer Online , where PvP/RvR makes Fun AND SENS cause its based on you skill , not on your Armory !!! ( Compare Armor of RR 40 gear to RR 80 gear ... and beginn to cry !!! )

Me and my girlfriend playing Tier 1 ONLY , cause this is the LAST SPOT with FUN . After reaching LvL 16 , the char gets deleted , cause its only to be cannonfooder for RR80+ players , and they can feel good when killing a other player with one hit .

But this is also the slow End of Warhammer Online , cuse sometimes only a few RR 100 + players will stay , but NOT EVEN ONE PLAYER will join the game which is " a new player " .

I think you just dont like concept of mmorpg games at all. Look on stat difference of Vanquisher set + genesis + weapons (required rr 58 and easy to get as vanq boots and gloves are buyable now) versus top set Sovereign + same genesis and pvp weapons.



As you can see both sets are no so much different regarding stats. 750 more armor on tank class, few more in basic stats. With city almost every day and royal crests as drops (shards) and in literally every bag above green is way easier to get than year ago.
But what make a difference here is progresion of other stuff.
As you spend more time in game effectively you get full spec at rr 70 vs 58 at vanq and opportunity to get best talismans. Of course your experience with character also progress. But thats how mmorpgs work. You invest your time and you get access to potential rewards. Its only up to you what you do with your time.

[Draugris]

I have played " original " Warhammer Online , and it was a GOOD game .
After Warhammer Online - Return of Reckoning has started I was Happs about the game . I have played it with my girlfriend , but have gotten EXTREMLY FRUSTRATED about the system of " RR " kile it is in game now .
RR at now is :
Play 1 or max 2 Charakters and GRING ALWAYS the same Towers ; and that for Years .
Advantage : You get a armory which is IMBA against lower RR-Players , so they will be cannonfooder for such Players . BUT : thats the only advantage !!!
Disadvantage : New Players will be frustrated very soon , so NO NEW PAYERS will join the game evermore . You are nailed to ONE Player to stay on top with the other RR-Heros ( but ALL Chars have there fun ) . You are doing boring GRINDING to stay on top , at cost of fun and game has future !!!

Playing One Charakter to RR 40 is a work , doing that with 24 Chars is insane !!! But better then getting 2 ore more Chars to RR80+
I get bfrustrated and left game one year ago , cause as a DD with RR 47 I have NO CHANCE against a RR80 Player wich ignored my Attacks . I could not make a bit dmg agains a Char of High RR . So why I should GRING month over month to play with otherplayers and make dmg ???
Guildwars has a other taktic , wher the PLAYER and his ABILITY are in front , not only his Armor . So you dont get lost of " lder Payers " but cit of the way for " new Players " !!! But this is game now !!!
Also my girlfriend whishes a reset of RR and a step back to ORIGINAL Warhammer Online , where PvP/RvR makes Fun AND SENS cause its based on you skill , not on your Armory !!! ( Compare Armor of RR 40 gear to RR 80 gear ... and beginn to cry !!! )

Me and my girlfriend playing Tier 1 ONLY , cause this is the LAST SPOT with FUN . After reaching LvL 16 , the char gets deleted , cause its only to be cannonfooder for RR80+ players , and they can feel good when killing a other player with one hit .

But this is also the slow End of Warhammer Online , cuse sometimes only a few RR 100 + players will stay , but NOT EVEN ONE PLAYER will join the game which is " a new player " .

I have played AOR also, even a year before it released since closed beta. In some ways, I can understand your frustration but RR and Gear were also important in the original Warhammer game and the grind was way worse than it is here, especially if you played alts. Warhammer Online is a completely unfair game when it comes to PvP, it always has been, it is designed that way. Class differences between realms, population imbalances, RR, gear, you name it. If you accept that, you can have a lot of fun here.

You mentioned Guildwars and you are right, it is a more fair game when it comes to PvP. So I think Warhammer Online might simply not be the right game for you. If the developers would really try to make the game more GW like, I think this would suck out all the flavor of the roots of Warhammer Online and there are people who are playing the game exactly for that. So imo your changes would kill the server even more.

[Draugris]

As you can see both sets are no so much different regarding stats.

To be fair, stats are not the only thing in which you are better. An RR80 in Warlord gear+ compared to an RR40 player has access to 5 more mastery points which is huge since it opens new and more powerful builds plus you also gain a new ability for the 8 piece bonus. So gear combined with RR is huge.

[Phantasm]

As you can see both sets are no so much different regarding stats.

To be fair, stats are not the only thing in which you are better. An RR80 in Warlord gear+ compared to an RR40 player has access to 5 more mastery points which is huge since it opens new and more powerful builds plus you also gain a new ability for the 8 piece bonus. So gear combined with RR is huge.

Thats what I said after, gear no mean much, what stacks on top of it do, full spec, best talismans, pve gear and experience gained by mastering class. Which is a feature of progression in mmorpgs.

[LinkinGarviel]

When player from MMORPG will understand, ennemy can have better armor, better RR, better stats, but your skill / gameplay will make the difference.

I played during all night with a sorcerer lvl 35 (Mixt stuff not opti) in duo with a vanquisher shammy (Ok she is very good) and i was on top kills zone ! Stuff doesn't mean nothing

Stop crying, and try for one time, to think the problem is you and not the game and the developper ! And learn to lose/die with dignity, it's only a game ! Sometime it's gonne be rude, sometimes it's gonna be to much easier for your party !

I played RVR during long long time, and during all years, i'm able with my team to do 6vsX against PU, but sometimes we can't kill 4 - 6 good player in premade like us, coz they know how to play

And if stuff was overpowered, all rr 80 will play with 8 pieces bonus, but it's not the case actually ! I'm rr 82 with my BW and still have 2 vanquisher pieces to get more flat stats ! With good talis, good pieces mixte you're able to optimize your character rr 40-50 and deal some damage !

(PS : sorry for my english)

[Draugris]

When player from MMORPG will understand, ennemy can have better armor, better RR, better stats, but your skill / gameplay will make the difference.

You contradict yourself in that statement. A fresh RR40 can not compete with somebody let´s say in Souv, End of Story. I know there are people who tell that fairy tale of "skill" to make them feel better if they are soloing a newbie in the lakes, but honestly outside of 6vs6 in ranked sc or a tournament, personal skill means very little here. In a game where your personal skill matters the most, gear does not matter and there are no factions, or at least classes are mirrored so that everybody is an even playing field. That´s not Warhammer, and that´s perfectly fine, if somebody wants to play that, play Guildwars or Guildwars 2.

[Phantasm]

Spoiler:

When player from MMORPG will understand, ennemy can have better armor, better RR, better stats, but your skill / gameplay will make the difference.

You contradict yourself in that statement. A fresh RR40 can not compete with somebody let´s say in Souv, End of Story. I know there are people who tell that fairy tale of "skill" to make them feel better if they are soloing a newbie in the lakes, but honestly outside of 6vs6 in ranked sc or a tournament, personal skill means very little here. In a game where your personal skill matters the most, gear does not matter and there are no factions, or at least classes are mirrored so that everybody is an even playing field. That´s not Warhammer, and that´s perfectly fine, if somebody wants to play that, play Guildwars or Guildwars 2.

How you define skill? Because if it is what is ment to be: ability to apply your tools and take advantage of them against opponent then yea, skill matter the most. Imagine someone who can see immunities and know how to apply "skills" in a right order to achieve win. And he doesnt need gear for that, or for predicting inc burst from Sov WE. Imagine rSH able to kite off SL in Sov. SL still be knocked down on antiroot, snared on its CD and knocked back on charge. In Sov or in Conq.

[Whyumadbro]

when you want only skill to matter play legaue of legends or any other moba