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Everdin
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Re: perma ban SC afk'rs

Post#21 » Mon May 30, 2022 11:59 am

Ashoris wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 11:53 am
Detangler wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 7:17 am I agree somewhat with OP, but there are times when life happens and you can't help it. Maybe you're, I don't know, a dad in their early 40s and you thought you could sneak a quick scenario in while your kid are quietly playing/coloring in the other room. Lo and behold, as soon as you hit accept, they begin arguing over which crayon they could use or someone got too close to the other and it escalated to pushing.

Now do you hop off the keybaord, take the quitter debuff and go be a dad, or ignore your kids so you can pew pew more internet elves and orcs?

Not that I would know anything about that...
you may add Wife or pets as you like for an even more difficult situation ! :)
Also work is distracting from playing sc to the end!
Garamore wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 10:58 am Put guards back in scenarios and ban groups in t1-t3. Right now most afking comes from getting farmed. At least guards gave you a chance to get a few kills when the team over extended. There is also a guild on the top 10 this week who seem to exclusively play t1-t3 scenarios whose kill to death ratio shows they are set up to farm the less organised/new players. Surprised any new player sticks with this going on.
why not ban solo players and force people to build groups, would be a better preperation for endgame!
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Ashoris
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Re: perma ban SC afk'rs

Post#22 » Mon May 30, 2022 12:04 pm

Sulorie wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 10:21 am
billyk wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 4:34 am OP is one of those people who refuse to press yes on surrender when they're behind 58 to 440, I bet.
That's me, when people don't deserve an easy way out. :mrgreen:
could be me too ... i only want to protect the other queueing people in that case !
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Re: perma ban SC afk'rs

Post#23 » Mon May 30, 2022 12:27 pm

Martok wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 7:36 am
ReBiff wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 2:26 amJust permaban people that do this...

I disagree. As I recall the moon was once a point of temporary exile for players who broke a rule not worthy of a full account ban. Perhaps that can be reinstated and applied for minor infractions which fall under the category of annoying behavior.
Morrslieb should be a timed prison, full PvP so whoever is sent there as punishment can't safely AFK lol

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Re: perma ban SC afk'rs

Post#24 » Mon May 30, 2022 12:32 pm

ReBiff wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 2:26 am im sooo tired of joining SCs to have 3 people afk without ever leaving spawn, nothing makes me log out faster. just permaban people that do this it ruins the game and makes noone want to que SCs when these people do.
to be honest it is not that easy !
yeah they are griefing afk'ers ... BUT there are a lot of other reasons why someone decides to go afk / dont participate.

I am a group Player .. i often join with a KotBS in Pug SCs. Iam totally useless if i dont have a dps i can support or if your own team is throwing around random CC immunity timers and help the enemy.
Yes - there are situations where i stop participating because your own team is soo bad and you cant do anything against it ....

Do you know how many engis on this server negate the ability of a proper played KotBS simply by using 2 different skills on cooldown ? How many people start the fight and using an AoE root in the beginning just to make sure EVERY ENEMY has a free immunity ?

how often there is a dps who is running solo into the enemy crowd just to explode immediately instead of waiting 5 seconds so he can engeage with friends ?
tanks that are somewhere but not even near a target they should guard, or not using guard at all.
healers who prefer to run solo and tryin to play objective while thats the wrong priority in that moment ?

this contributes way more often to a loss than someone afk'ing ... and in such situations i understand every Player who is afk, and yes in that case i also vote "NO" on surrender just to protect everyone else who is queueing !
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billyk
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Re: perma ban SC afk'rs

Post#25 » Mon May 30, 2022 1:23 pm

Sulorie wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 10:21 am That's me, when people don't deserve an easy way out. :mrgreen:
Everdin wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 10:39 am Doing the same, pushing no is not pride, it is punishment!
Ashoris wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 12:04 pm could be me too ... i only want to protect the other queueing people in that case !
Worst community ever.

You're the kinda guys that don't assist because they're afraid to killsteal.
You're the kinda guys that get closer to the screen when someone says "Focus healers".
You're the kinda guys that go afk in a ram.
You're the kinda guys that fly to Altdorf and look for a vendor that sells tickets to the melee train.

Everdin
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Re: perma ban SC afk'rs

Post#26 » Mon May 30, 2022 1:37 pm

billyk wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 1:23 pm
Sulorie wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 10:21 am That's me, when people don't deserve an easy way out. :mrgreen:
Everdin wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 10:39 am Doing the same, pushing no is not pride, it is punishment!
Ashoris wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 12:04 pm could be me too ... i only want to protect the other queueing people in that case !
Worst community ever.

You're the kinda guys that don't assist because they're afraid to killsteal.
You're the kinda guys that get closer to the screen when someone says "Focus healers".
You're the kinda guys that go afk in a ram.
You're the kinda guys that fly to Altdorf and look for a vendor that sells tickets to the melee train.
And you're the kina guy that is so insecure that he tries to insult people who he never met/talked to/played with because they don't share his opinion
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Garamore
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Re: perma ban SC afk'rs

Post#27 » Mon May 30, 2022 1:58 pm

billyk wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 11:41 am
Garamore wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 10:58 am Surprised any new player sticks with this going on.
Take a look at the server pop.
Server pop is down. Not seen a genuinely new person in ages….
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Re: perma ban SC afk'rs

Post#28 » Mon May 30, 2022 2:03 pm

Everdin wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 11:59 am
why not ban solo players and force people to build groups, would be a better preperation for endgame!
It would be better prep for end game but at least at end game they will have similar gear. Right now as a new player they are being farmed by twinks in scenarios who are grouping just in this tier.

It cannot be a fun levelling experience as a new player which would be good for overall sever health.
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Everdin
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Re: perma ban SC afk'rs

Post#29 » Mon May 30, 2022 2:24 pm

Garamore wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 2:03 pm
Everdin wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 11:59 am
why not ban solo players and force people to build groups, would be a better preperation for endgame!
It would be better prep for end game but at least at end game they will have similar gear. Right now as a new player they are being farmed by twinks in scenarios who are grouping just in this tier.

It cannot be a fun levelling experience as a new player which would be good for overall sever health.
The gear gap is by far a bigger issue in endgame then in mid-tier. You can easy get gear-progress in low tier, and if you keep up gearing with gear that matches your rank bolster hits very hard.

I recently startet to level my dok, mostly solo que, sometimes joining a group if someone is searching for a healer.

There is one order guild you find constantly with premades (or at least always 2-6 players from the same guild) in midtier (they created a second guild, not sure what drives them). Regarding this special guild it seems they are just recruiting a lot of new players, they are not very... premadish, as soon as they meet 2:2:2 on the other side, fights are 50/50.

Beside this there are groups on both sides build in lfg. I play on different times a day and sometimes we loose, sometimes we win, but it is not a constant "we get stomped, omg it is so terrible" feeling.

Of course there are some people trying to extend the t3-experience with bis-gear/high talis/pots against mostly new players, but these mostly are single players, i never noticed any farming guild constantly stomping lowies.

And even if there are guildgroups from time to time, that should be pretty normal, why should 2-6 people from one guild who wants to create a new alts not play together, thats the purpose of guilds, thats the reason to play a mmorpg.
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billyk
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Re: perma ban SC afk'rs

Post#30 » Mon May 30, 2022 3:31 pm

Everdin wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 1:37 pm And you're the kina guy that is so insecure that he tries to insult people who he never met/talked to/played with because they don't share his opinion
Guess I hit a nerve rofl

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