How to deal with regen specs

[rrrutsss]

To those who complain about regen, are you aware that removing it will mean small scale dominated by glass cannon rdps sniping mdps in 3-4 gcds, dps healers, and jumping wls? Or that is the plan, especially considering that there is no mirror class destro side with similar combination of frontal burst and mobility to wl?

How you think we played before all this regen?
Or you think we didint play before all this regen?

[Zxul]

To those who complain about regen, are you aware that removing it will mean small scale dominated by glass cannon rdps sniping mdps in 3-4 gcds, dps healers, and jumping wls? Or that is the plan, especially considering that there is no mirror class destro side with similar combination of frontal burst and mobility to wl?

How you think we played before all this regen?
Or you think we didint play before all this regen?

Actually that is exactly how it was before the regen- ams/ shams dominated even harder. But now with extra dmg added, expect to die lot more to rdps burst as well.

[Farrul]

Sometimes I would like to turn my brain off and go regen with my SM/Chosen/ and some other destro toon, with how few solo players there are these days and a lot of shammy/AM/magus/and gank running around, regen seems to be the only way I can survive in the lake while roaming. but yeah I do agree it still needs to be toned down a bit(or a lot).

For tanks( actually tank classes, not tanky mdps) regen is mandatory in solo or they will not have a good time with all the abusive dots and rdps etc. It is the only archetype where regen stacking is justifiable.

It is not justifiable.
It was tons of more fun playing dps tanks and also playing against them when there was little to no regen(times when there was like max 2 or 3 people on the server whit fleshrenders and that was it).
You had to think all your moves and time skills, now you just roam as a regen and dont care about anytiming or positioning mostly because you outlast everyone and can escape allmost all fights whit little to no effort.

It is.

Low mobility, no detaunts, no mdps charge skills, no ranged attacks. Regen is a tanky stat for small scale and guess what archetypical category tanks fall into?

As for ''dps solo tank'' maybe they were a thing back when the upper gear tier was limited to Vanq gear, with the amount of dps/dots/ ranged damage etc there is no such thing as a ''DPS solo tank'' unless you have a pocket healer with you. A solo tank need regen to even stay alive, not a question about skill or a simple dot spamming shaman will make your life miserable.

Tank ability to escape is none-existent if attacked by competent players, can be abused in so many ways by hard CC, pulls, snares etc. This may indeed be a skill issue by the players attacking the tank or a gap in gear( solo roamers are usually geared and will try-hard on potions).

[salazarn]

They should just revert the gcd changes to raise damage.

That way healers are more killable and regen is nerfed by default.

But they won't. So I won't play cos its regen/ shamageddon in small scale pvp for order.

[havartii]

Whay is there no intel version of flesh with the hit points.. only ap

[Zxul]

Whay is there no intel version of flesh with the hit points.. only ap

There is one with intel + regen as well.

[shoelessHN]

Whay is there no intel version of flesh with the hit points.. only ap

There is one with intel + regen as well.

Pretty sure the intel and willpower ones are more rare because it only drops the ones for your class and its solo'd by tanks usually so they get toughness or strength. But after farming like 40 of them a few years ago I haven't bothered killing it since so maybe they changed it.