[Archmage] Funnel Essence/Healing Energy

[Nameless]

did you ever played competative 6v6 with shaman. ive done that and know that one kotbs could make your hot healing non existing. Theorycrafting is good to be supported with some ingame experience

have you ever played "competative" 6vs6 with AM? Because you know whats worse than one kotbs making your healing non existant on the move? Having non existant healing on the move.

Because, newsflash, having a counter to something you can do is still much better than not being able to do so at all.

um that why i fully support the change to FE being casted on move. Change that you dislike. I am aware of AM weaknesses and i explain them. The contradictory opinion are comming from you, not from me

At its current form (ap cost, and healing amount) GFI and its mirrors could be just made instant cast. Both the ridicules high ap and relativy low healing made up for the lack of casting time.
That kind of change will be great for shaman/am, decent for zealot/rp, non factor for wp/dok

[Sulorie]

you cant heal brust with hots. It is impossible.
And no the tripple shatter is still not available at ror since the tactic is +lv32 so u didnt saw the beauty of enchantments remover
But seriously since the hots are so powerfull heal why noone use the cleanse hot? Yes the hot doesnt root you but it doesnt provide the heal when you need it. not to mention how ap hungry is to keep 9 sec hot on multiply targets
Hots work better at bigger TTK and now the ttk is so low that their usefullness is quite low

Any properly skilled sham/am uses the cleanse hot tactic, because it's too good to skip.
FE doesn't heal more per second than the core ST heal, the only difference is that the first tick is instant.
You are not supposed to hot everyone, pick the right targets.

Do you think tripple shatter will make its appearance in ROR like on live?

[Scrilian]

Do you think tripple shatter will make its appearance in ROR like on live?

Any why not?

[Sulorie]

Do you think tripple shatter will make its appearance in ROR like on live?

Any why not?

Because it is an excellent candidate for balancing adjustments, when it is proven to be too effective.

[Tesq]

Do you think tripple shatter will make its appearance in ROR like on live?

Any why not?

reange nerfed from 65 to 5 feet.

I Duno personally i wont slot 1 tactic that give me 1 advantage vs 1 class which is not so meta relevant. Have a blessing dispell would make it different.

[Tklees]

Do you think tripple shatter will make its appearance in ROR like on live?

Any why not?

reange nerfed from 65 to 5 feet.

I Duno personally i wont slot 1 tactic that give me 1 advantage vs 1 class which is not so meta relevant. Have a blessing dispell would make it different.

I'd also lower it to two strips instead of 3 as to the rest of this I'm reading about shamans.

They do not get the other detaunt because of the racial and the kitability. If you seriously need more survival on a shaman than you currently have I'd suggest trying a different class or rebinding your strafe keys and learning to kite. See the thread about nerfing morfee, where they are talking about how shamans can kite warbands. The only thing shamans need to be more viable in a high end setup is the balancing of the kotbs and maybe a look into a tatic that promotes a group use.

AMs on the other hand lack a lot of the major survival tools Shamans have but are effective healers if in the hands of the extremely skilled players. I played on live with 3-4 AMs that I would bring over and RP any day, but if a Mara fetched them they would most likely not make it out if Cooldowns were not blown while the shaman tends to be a bit tougher.

Both classes currently have a high skill cap to be played well but are not as far off from being useful as I am reading a lot of you post. You need to think small with the tweaks you suggest.

[noisestorm]

They do not get the other detaunt because of the racial and the kitability.

Just to add: Shamans do get 'the other' detaunt as well. They have a tactic which stacks with either their single OR their normal aoe detaunts. : >


@Aza: What would your approach for HealingEnergy and its 3 other mirrors on rp/zeal/sham be? Would you lower the AP cost alltogether with making it castable on the move, or what would you have in mind?

[Tesq]

They do not get the other detaunt because of the racial and the kitability.

Just to add: Shamans do get 'the other' detaunt as well. They have a tactic which stacks with either their single OR their normal aoe detaunts. : >

it need to be slot and is not aoe and not remove set back, but i assume it's fair considering it's a passive proc chance. But 1 tactic it's a lot for st detaunt.

[noisestorm]

I dont know what you are talking about, but their Aoe Detaunt AND Single detaunt are BOTH baseline spells. AND they have a tactic together with that which is an auto procc. AM only has a tactic which enhances his AoE detaunt (but is pretty strong anyways). Also the baseline AoE detaunt from the shaman has a disrupt buff for the shaman. Yes the setback remove from AM may also seem better, but if you need to use your aoe detaunt you dont have time to stand still and cast anyways, so youre virtually getting no use out of that in real fights.

[Tesq]

I dont know what you are talking about, but their Aoe Detaunt AND Single detaunt are BOTH baseline spells. AND they have a tactic together with that which is an auto procc. AM only has a tactic which enhances his AoE detaunt (but is pretty strong anyways). Also the baseline AoE detaunt from the shaman has a disrupt buff for the shaman. Yes the setback remove from AM may also seem better, but if you need to use your aoe detaunt you dont have time to stand still and cast anyways, so youre virtually getting no use out of that in real fights.

walk between word is better for me than the shammy counter part. Just that, it's true then that shammy can get out of set back problem due to run tactic then cast while not focussed. I assume if you want a valid alternative you slot the de-taunt tactic but you loose 1 tactic and it's not an ista aoe detaunt. You still need to use one of those aoe de-taunt.