Heaven's Fury / Quake

[Nishka]

I've already spoken on this topic. KotBS and Chosen are in no position to receive any kind of buff.

You hate us a lot. Are you envious? Maybe you should just buff SM then?

[Azarael]

I've already spoken on this topic. KotBS and Chosen are in no position to receive any kind of buff.

You hate us a lot. Are you envious? Maybe you should just buff SM then?

Hmm. I guess I have a choice here.

Either I warn you for issuing a post which is just a direct attack with suggestions of bias towards one of my classes, or I stoop to your level and troll you back.

...As much as I'd love to do the latter, it doesn't really make much difference with you, so consider this your first and last warning.

[rmpl]

I think it was just a joke.

[Nishka]

I've already spoken on this topic. KotBS and Chosen are in no position to receive any kind of buff.

You hate us a lot. Are you envious? Maybe you should just buff SM then?

Hmm. I guess I have a choice here.

Either I warn you for issuing a post which is just a direct attack with suggestions of bias towards one of my classes, or I stoop to your level and troll you back.

...As much as I'd love to do the latter, it doesn't really make much difference with you, so consider this your first and last warning.

It was just a friendly kidding. What's wrong with you?

[Azarael]

All I have to judge you on is how you've behaved in the past, so do forgive me if I came to the wrong conclusion.

[Nishka]

All I have to judge you on is how you've behaved in the past, so do forgive me if I came to the wrong conclusion.

Behaved in the past?
I am generally positive that I never trolled you or anyone else, at least intentional. I'm sorry if I gave you such impression, I'm just a dumb blonde that's all

[Soulcheg]

Azarael wound girl's feelings, shame on him

[Tesq]

don't be tard as mythic, they gave stag remove to magus /engi then nerfed chosen/kobs stag to 3 sec -.-

increase it to 5 sec would make useless again magus /engi stag.

Magus engi stag need to be > than chosen/kobs one. The difference is a lot from 3 to 5.
At max you could test if it's not overpowered at 4 sec but definetly not 5.

[mursie]

I find it astounding that anyone could be foolish enough to be calling for a buff to KoTBS/Chosens, if my chosen (no pun intended) class was as archetype leading as the aura boys I would want to keep it out of the spotlight at all costs.....

Some would say the kotbs and chosen aren't even the best tank for their respective faction. A difference of opinion I guess.

At the end of the day, with games like daoc long gone by, the point was more about teamplay and coordination. Staggers are only perfectly executed when an organized unit single target fires correctly. It is a risk-reward type ability. It gives immunity to all if used incorrectly. But when used correctly, 6man teams can kill 2x or more of their numbers.

My post was more about the current form of the ability being somewhat lacking to execute the higher organization (although it still can be done). suggestions like making this ability higher in cost to remove overpowered specs was mentioned. I even mentioned putting altogether on another tank class. Overall the discussion is not about kotbs / chosen needing buffs. It was about the abilities themselves.

Then again - I guess to achieve the same effect that i was asking for... I could jsut get an engy or magus in the group.

[Nishka]

"I wish to state that we will not consider the current power of a class when dealing with underpowered or useless abilities, and we will not allow discussions regarding underperforming aspects of a viable class to be blocked by players pointing out that the class is already viable."

Please don't ban me for this question... Just one question... I'm not trying to troll or anyting, just would like to know how it corresponds with your previous words that you won't consider any buff to stagger because "KotBS and Chosen are in no position to receive any kind of buff."
Maybe you have changed you mind? Or maybe I don't understand something, like it offten happens with me? Sorry for being stupid then