which caster for dps/self-healing

[Eathisword]

I suggest this built to you:
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=zea ... :5718:0:0:

I'm gonna retry it myself.

Ok thanks, I will give it a try. Atm I am lvl.10 and still having fun, but it is just t1 maybe later will be not so easy

I played dps RP back on live. Its bad. You can win 1v1, as you can on any class. But that's about it.
-Imo, the most similar class to afflock is magus, specially considering the kiting part, CC wise, damage wise. It has minor selfheal, a minion and it can self buff/heal in a very minor way.

- AM/shaman/RP/Zealot feels more like ele shaman tbh. The damage is different, but they can Direct heal even in damage spec. Peterpan's analogy to shadow priest is quite just too.

Just remember, the CC here, is a hell lot different from WoW. So for solo play, AM/shaman/magus are way better than RP/zealot, has they have access to more control and can cc multiple people at a time with their snare/stagger. RP/zealot have a harder time doing so. To some extent, even though lore wise they are very different, engineer resemble warlock a lot too and have very decent self heal, lots of CC and good damage + they are very easy to level and have good farming potential to supply other characters you might end up making.

am/shaman/magus > rp/zealot , that's so sad i was really oriented in one of these 2 classes...

So are you suggesting me to try the engi? ok the lore could be different from my preferences, but I give most importance to the gamestyle of the character. I never tried one

Yeah. I played afflock for quite some time, and engineer/magus are really the closest thing, as they are the classes with the most CC in the game; knock down, staggers, root, snare, punt : they have it all. Both are very versatile classes. Glass canon, they both capable of doing huge damage. In turtle spec, they can be very defensive. They have useful pets. + They excel at PvE. Since you are new, you gonna need some money : engineer and magus are among the best money farmers.

DPS healers are flashy in the lower tiers (specially from level 1-15, so don't get discouraged. Lots of new people roll dps healer cause they are king of lowlands). They get pretty dead meat end game (at level 40 and high renown).

[dalinvar]

If youre thinking of am/shaman as a dps their damage falls off a cliff in t4. You will not be a dps there. If you want the best of all worlds go magus/engi after a buff that makes mythics mara buff look tame.

thanks for the opinion, i wrote that because from the topic everyone saying me rp/zea can not be able to play decently in dps spec at endgame.

I've got a strange idea about magus, some people say it sucks, some love it. lol

[dalinvar]

Yeah. I played afflock for quite some time, and engineer/magus are really the closest thing, as they are the classes with the most CC in the game; knock down, staggers, root, snare, punt : they have it all. Both are very versatile classes. Glass canon, they both capable of doing huge damage. In turtle spec, they can be very defensive. They have useful pets. + They excel at PvE. Since you are new, you gonna need some money : engineer and magus are among the best money farmers.

DPS healers are flashy in the lower tiers (specially from level 1-15, so don't get discouraged. Lots of new people roll dps healer cause they are king of lowlands). They get pretty dead meat end game (at level 40 and high renown).

Ok considering I have actually tried rp/zeal/shammy i would like to give a try to your choice now.
From engi/magus Im going to prefer magus, for the warlock similarity, but it depends.

What are the biggest difference between engi/magus? I mean pros and cons, in t4 perspective.


thanks again for the info guys

[Eathisword]

In my play experience they are similar. I haven't played them since the changes though. So people say engineer is very OP. But meh. They have more utility than magus because of healing keg (its awesome).

They have almost the same CC. Magus does more ''balanced'' damage, because it magic. Engineer spikes damage vs light armor and struggle vs tank because they do mainly physical.

Magus defensive build can be toughness (better vs magic) oriented. Engineer defensive build rely on more armor (better vs melee).

I believe a great player can be epic on both classes.

[peterthepan3]

Magus looks better and is more akin to an actual lock due to flight duration of abilities (Bolt of Change), allowing you to get a rotation very similar to a Destro Lock (I would say Magus is very similar to a destro lock moreso than it is affl): bolt of change + soi + svf is pretty much chaos bolt + shadowfury + incin/SB/DC/whatever else.

both classes pretty much do the same thing, and as said above can be very good in the right hands. I would still say that the Magus is the better duelist of the two endgame.

[Eathisword]

I would still say that the Magus is the better duelist of the two endgame.

I agree. Very tough to beat a good magus. Even tougher than shaman or melee dok.

[Tankbeardz]

magus violet fire build

bahahahaha

100% you aint tried it

I have tried every spec...multiple times. Thanks.

[Tankbeardz]

Magus looks better and is more akin to an actual lock due to flight duration of abilities (Bolt of Change), allowing you to get a rotation very similar to a Destro Lock (I would say Magus is very similar to a destro lock moreso than it is affl): bolt of change + soi + svf is pretty much chaos bolt + shadowfury + incin/SB/DC/whatever else.

both classes pretty much do the same thing, and as said above can be very good in the right hands. I would still say that the Magus is the better duelist of the two endgame.

Engi burst is much faster in ST spec due to the faster finisher channel and m2. Despite all the complaints you will hear from engi players about physical damage, I can easily keep pace with my RR 57 magus...on a RR 33 engi. Magus hits tanks harder...so what.

Magus has a better Rift spec and burst heal...but keg...is fun to play with and is great when you are pugging and there is no heal support.

Both classes are amazing in the lakes and vs pugs. Against premades, they are farily useless.

[tazdingo]

bahahahaha

100% you aint tried it

I have tried every spec...multiple times. Thanks.

throw mara? berserk SW? unicorn BW?

[peterthepan3]

Magus looks better and is more akin to an actual lock due to flight duration of abilities (Bolt of Change), allowing you to get a rotation very similar to a Destro Lock (I would say Magus is very similar to a destro lock moreso than it is affl): bolt of change + soi + svf is pretty much chaos bolt + shadowfury + incin/SB/DC/whatever else.

both classes pretty much do the same thing, and as said above can be very good in the right hands. I would still say that the Magus is the better duelist of the two endgame.

Engi burst is much faster in ST spec due to the faster finisher channel and m2. Despite all the complaints you will hear from engi players about physical damage, I can easily keep pace with my RR 57 magus...on a RR 33 engi. Magus hits tanks harder...so what.

Magus has a better Rift spec and burst heal...but keg...is fun to play with and is great when you are pugging and there is no heal support.

Both classes are amazing in the lakes and vs pugs. Against premades, they are farily useless.

agreed. was just comparing the magus with destro lock as imo it's more similar to a destro lock than an engineer is (based off aesthetics/flight times)