Patch Notes 08/12/2017

[Haojin]

You can't organize around 5 sec durations and 10 sec cooldowns.

The shortest timespan to keep buffs/debuffs on a targets in this game is organized around 10 sec durations and 20 sec cooldowns. It is Literally all over the place in the game. Go try to organize keeping a effect up with 5 sec durations and 10 sec cooldowns. You can't. It requires too much attention in organized/coordinated play.

I've tried to do this with big brawlin tactic on the BO and it just doesn't work.

I hope this doesn't become a trend.

the question is : why we want to coordinate draining swipe ?

[footpatrol2]

100% upkeep on 50% ap regen on a spec line that drains ap. You don't see that as powerful? Ok...

[Haojin]

for which setup mate ? double mara ? mara choppa ? mara we ? 8 mara warband ?

[footpatrol2]

double mara in whatever setup, 6 man, 12 man, 18 man, 24 man. Up too you all it required was 2 savagery spec'd mara's. It's a punch at organized play.

[Haojin]

not gonna change anything.

there are tons of ap feeders in the game. not mentioning DS can be cleansed too. if you want to make mass aoe ap drain, ES is way to go.

[footpatrol2]

Ya there are Tons of tools to AE ap drain that isn't what this is.

I don't know why your bringing that into this.

Oh I forgot, if you can cleanse it it means nothing right?
If a ability is cleansable that mean's it's useless right? No.

Your not making sense.

There are TONS of things in the game that can get cleansed so that means nothing right? No.

[Haojin]

just pointing that "tons of ap feeder + cleanse " makes this gimp ability more gimpier.

we talking about %50 slower natural ap regen mate. what was the timer of it ? 1.75 - 2 second every ap tick (?) become 2.65 - 3 seconds with DS ?

[footpatrol2]

There is damage in this game.
But there is also healer's. So damage is moot.

That's the kind of logic your telling at me.

[Haojin]

there is fluff damage in this game.
but there is also healers. so fluff damage is moot.

that's my logic agaist draining swipe mate. yeah, you could keep DS up most of the times if it's 10 sec duration with double mara which not gonna change anything.

[footpatrol2]

You know player's thought proc meta was fluff damage right? Meaningless damage that didn't do anything was the perceived thought for a LONG time.

Just because you don't see the power in something doesn't mean it is not there.

Personally I don't know either but I wouldn't remove it's organization tool until I actually trialed and tested it in several different environments.