How is the state of WL?

[Azuzu]

Flying death from above OMG nerf!!! (j/k)


WL feels like it's in a good place, T2 balance wise. A lot of the issues (reasons it wasn't popular in t4) with WL don't show in T2.

WL is a great counter class to Sorc, with its impressive melee burst damage. (My personal experience)

I've been killed a couple of times at the top of the keep from WL pouncing up. I never thought this was because the WL was overpowered. It was because I was being dumb, built completely glass cannon, not standing near my guard or getting hit by range plus WL

[Coryphaus]

Flying death from above OMG nerf!!! (j/k)


WL feels like it's in a good place, T2 balance wise. A lot of the issues (reasons it wasn't popular in t4) with WL don't show in T2.

WL is a great counter class to Sorc, with its impressive melee burst damage.

and shaman

so going by that vein of though what "counters" bws and ams


humor me

[Glorian]

Could be a good guild concept.
Six white lions jumping on the walls screaming pirate stuff.

Guild Name would be Ice Pirates, or "Pirates of Caledor".

[Sulorie]

The underhive is strong today.

Where are your own melees? Rdps belong behind a tank wall, because melees have trouble to hit targets due to friendly collision, unlike rdps, who can shoot though them. Melees have either disarm or kd, both useful to shut the WL down.
Furthermore you won't need 30 players at one doorway, as all just block each other.

Stop being bad and stop to complain about anything what kills you. They kill you because you or your team made a mistake.

[Sulorie]

so going by that vein of though what "counters" bws and ams


humor me

A zealot.

[Coryphaus]

The underhive is strong today.

Where are your own melees? Rdps belong behind a tank wall, because melees have trouble to hit targets due to friendly collision, unlike rdps, who can shoot though them. Melees have either disarm or kd, both useful to shut the WL down.
Furthermore you won't need 30 players at one doorway, as all just block each other.

Stop being bad and stop to complain about anything what kills you. They kill you because you or your team made a mistake.

What melees have kd here? None on destro bar we

and i dont know about your tank but mine dosnt last long vs multiple rain of fires and other aoe on the roof

[Azuzu]

Flying death from above OMG nerf!!! (j/k)


WL feels like it's in a good place, T2 balance wise. A lot of the issues (reasons it wasn't popular in t4) with WL don't show in T2.

WL is a great counter class to Sorc, with its impressive melee burst damage.

and shaman

so going by that vein of though what "counters" bws and ams


humor me

I'll humor you, but I think you misunderstood my point.

I was saying, I play a class that is naturally weak to WL.

So I have a unique (clothing range dps) take on how strong it can be. Others, say Mara/tank/dok, may find them to not be as powerful. That being said as a class that feels weak to them, I don't find them to be overpowered.

To humor you
Going by that train if thought, Maras melt clothies, that armor debuffs is nasty. Once Mara gets pull, they have an even easier time vs BW/AM. WEs get insane vs clothies too, with the ability to kill some before they can get up from the knock down.

[Coryphaus]

Flying death from above OMG nerf!!! (j/k)


WL feels like it's in a good place, T2 balance wise. A lot of the issues (reasons it wasn't popular in t4) with WL don't show in T2.

WL is a great counter class to Sorc, with its impressive melee burst damage.

and shaman

so going by that vein of though what "counters" bws and ams


humor me

I'll humor you, but I think you misunderstood my point.

I was saying, I play a class that is naturally weak to WL.

So I have a unique (clothing range dps) take on how strong it can be. Others, say Mara, may find them to not be as powerful.

To humor you
Going by that train if thought, Maras melt clothies, that armor debuffs is nasty. Once Mara gets pull, they have an even easier time vs BW/AM. WEs get insane vs clothies too, with the ability to kill some before they can get up from the knock down.

Ofc and i agree that wl is not as powerful, i said that in the very first post in this thread

the entire diatribe of this conversation started from pounce nd what it allows wls to do in keep seiges and destro not being able to respond in a similar manner

Ofc mara gets pull and then so does wl and before any one starts this is not live, here in ror pounce works better than it did on live so fetch and TE will work better than it did on live and become more consistent so that point is moot

[tomato]

What melees have kd here? None on destro bar we

and i dont know about your tank but mine dosnt last long vs multiple rain of fires and other aoe on the roof

You obviously have great tanks then.

[thullonse]

What melees have kd here? None on destro bar we

choppa marauder and we. they all have a kd.