DPS (Grace) Warrior Priest

[Scottx125]

Mmm, when a WP gets knocked down its pretty much a death sentence, WP are close-combat healers, they should be able to get into the mix and fight, yet as of now WP struggle in melee, and because of that the only viable way to play them is to go ranged healers, which is boring.

[bloodi]

DPS Warrior priest needs a 3 second kd so more people play it. Discuss.

I am strong in the stance that they should be given one and i argue that anyone who dares to oppose it is not only a scoundrel but also wants to destroy the sanctity of this game.

And i say this from experience, good faith, knowledge and every other good buzzword i can attach to myself.

Then that is the problem, why are they so weak? If a class has the ability to specialize into different areas, then they should excel in those areas, Heal should improve healing, DPS should improve DPS, Grace should improve both DPS and healing slightly but not to the extent of the other 2 categories.

I already explained you why but i fear it fell on deaf ears

And WP on live were defiantly not "meh", they could reliably 1v1 any class of equal level to them, in some cases higher levels.

Being able to only do well in 1vs1 is the definition of "meh"

A knockdown would be effective, but how would you balance Salvation also having it?

I dont know what worse, the fact that you took him seriously or how you are unable to think aabout a way to give Grace a kd without giving it to salvation.

[Penril]

Then that is the problem, why are they so weak? If a class has the ability to specialize into different areas, then they should excel in those areas, Heal should improve healing, DPS should improve DPS, Grace should improve both DPS and healing slightly but not to the extent of the other 2 categories.

And WP on live were defiantly not "meh", they could reliably 1v1 any class of equal level to them, in some cases higher levels.

1) 1v1 doesnt matter
2) A LOT of destro classes were able to defeat a DPS WP 1v1

[Mez]

I also kill dps WP or DOK's with morale 3 melee absorb. Or any bubble, absorb potions, all with detaunt up, its pretty much gg for them.

The ability to self heal just makes them tough bastards, but as documented, they can break easily. This means you have a melee with no charge, and no root-snare break. They have no CC. This puts them so far behind other 2H mdps its unplayable. It's only fair to mirror them with other 2h mdps and give them charge, snare break, and a cc.

[Penril]

I also kill dps WP or DOK's with morale 3 melee absorb. Or any bubble, absorb potions, all with detaunt up, its pretty much gg for them.

The ability to self heal just makes them tough bastards, but as documented, they can break easily. This means you have a melee with no charge, and no root-snare break. They have no CC. This puts them so far behind other 2H mdps its unplayable. It's only fair to mirror them with other 2h mdps and give them charge, snare break, and a cc.

teach me how to sorc brah

[Scottx125]

Not from my experience when I played on live, I had a level 40 WP and any melee i got into a 1v1 in, with any class I would regularly win, ranged DPS was a problem until I got into close range and shamans were just OP.

And I know bloodi, you gave me a reason, my second question was rhetorical. If ranged-heal spec improves healing by 100%, and melee-DPS spec improves DPS by 100%, Grace should have both healing and DPS improved by 50% to suit the melee healing class that it is, meaning its heals should be integrated and focused on their DPS, and their DPS should be good enough to accommodate that, which as it stands it is not.

[ThePollie]

I dont know what worse, the fact that you took him seriously or how you are unable to think aabout a way to give Grace a kd without giving it to salvation.

Because I don't know what sort of options the Devs have at their disposal.

Easiest method would be to require a Great Weapon to use it.

[Mez]

I also kill dps WP or DOK's with morale 3 melee absorb. Or any bubble, absorb potions, all with detaunt up, its pretty much gg for them.

The ability to self heal just makes them tough bastards, but as documented, they can break easily. This means you have a melee with no charge, and no root-snare break. They have no CC. This puts them so far behind other 2H mdps its unplayable. It's only fair to mirror them with other 2h mdps and give them charge, snare break, and a cc.

teach me how to sorc brah

Please pick a non-EA Mythic Bioware forum avatar sir.

[bloodi]

Because I don't know what sort of options the Devs have at their disposal.

Easiest method would be to require a Great Weapon to use it.

Let me put it this way, Order doesnt need more kds. Mostly because if i see anyone else using their shitty KD when i am going to cave win them, i will murder someone.

The guy who said that was being facetious because of the insistence of giving BGs a kd of some people.

[ThePollie]

Because I don't know what sort of options the Devs have at their disposal.

Easiest method would be to require a Great Weapon to use it.

Let me put it this way, Order doesnt need more kds. Mostly because if i see anyone else using their shitty KD when i am going to cave win them, i will murder someone.

The guy who said that was being facetious because of the insistence of giving BGs a kd of some people.

Arguing that other classes have enough of one tool isn't argument to deny another class a tool they may need.