[WITCH ELF] amelioration

[Vdova]

Solo killing healers is not your job this is a mistake many WE/WH make and they die for it allot. No good healer is going to die to a wh solo they will detaunt, cc, kite away. When a WH/WE tries this they are usually the only thing that dies so much can go wrong when your away from any kind of support on an mdps your 1 piece of cc away from being dead.

These classes especially WH will start to under preform in T4 due to their design as a squishy high damage assassin they are just sub par in groups, they are another MAD dependent class but unlike others the WH has no way of getting any weapon skill (the witch elf can be slightly ahead on this) to aide his other skills and as all their damage is positional they are going to suffer in a melee trail environment where all their damage is positional and they are prime targets due to light armour(again WE is slightly ahead due to better tactics and procs).

They don't need heaps of wep skill, seal of destruction/torment and the mirrors, WE also have witchbrew and puncture armor. Also they don't "start" to underperform in t4, they get MUCH better than they are currently.

You can become quite quite a threat to healers once you have outgoing and incoming healdebuff in conjuction with your KD and crit multi tactic, the problem is without self punt right now when they peel for you its all ogre.

Also what is up with WE's acting like 50% AA haste is the 2nd holocaust? Your daggers are as fast as 1.6 speed base? Swords/pistol are at best 2.0 speed usually 2.4? Also choppas can buff your AA speed.

Wrong. Its shame, but at the end RvR weapons have all the same speed, doesnt matter if its sword, dagger or axe

U cannot take PA+WB, the same time Exit Wound provides much more damege then all WB procs taken together.

Puncture, the core skill, the one that ignores all armor when attacking from behind, not pierce armor.

I am also curious how come Exit wound does more overall damage that Witchbrew.

Puncure does not ignore all armor, its Agonizing wounds(from behind) and Pierce armor(from any angle,specable with 10s cooldown)

This discussion nearly become WH vs WE compairing, so back to topic.
This IS NOT WOW! I have played it after WAR ends and Yes rouge has more disingage mechanics, gap closers, CCs, etc etc. but nothing of this going to happen in RoR.

WE and WH are shiny example of mirroring compare to choppa/slayer or mara/WL and they will show class full potential at higher levels and T4.

[bloodi]

Puncure does not ignore all armor, its Agonizing wounds(from behind) and Pierce armor(from any angle,specable with 10s cooldown)

You right, meant to say agonizing wounds.

[Atropik]

the WE is more likely a hit and run class with either huge front- or backloaded burst potential (higher burst peaks than the wh)

Why?

The burst peaks are reach due to abilities that involve a spec like such:
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=we; ... 1:;0:0:0:0:

This is the WE gank Spec and out of stealth you hit like a truck due to Masterful Trech. This can be combined with Puncture and Elixir of Insane Power to deliver some serious damage.

The WH on the other hand gets its highest burst from a spec as such:

http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=wh; ... 5:;0:0:0:0:

The burst would come from combining an Absolution finisher right as the last tick of Burn away lies goes combined with their Seal of Destruction. This is unreliable at best in top end PvP and why most WHs will run EW spec for the sure damage.

Oh
My
God
Senior
Balance
Moderator

Here comes the end of any balance in RoR, it seems.

[Foxbeep]

Oh
My
God
Senior
Balance
Moderator

Here comes the end of any balance in RoR, it seems.

Tklees has nothing to do with development or decision making

The role of the Balance Forum Moderator is to ensure posts on the Balance forums adhere to a certain standard of rhetoric and logical debate.

His opinion carries no extra weight, his job is to make sure no one is breaking the rules specific to the Balance forums.

[Atropik]

his job is to make sure no one is breaking the rules specific to the Balance forums.

Ah, ok then.

Sorry

[Jaycub]

Wrong. Its shame, but at the end RvR weapons have all the same speed, doesnt matter if its sword, dagger or axe

Dang that's lame

http://www.arsenalofwar.com/items/Destr ... 0Reckoning

[Atropik]

Since one man think SS and MT tactic provides insane burst, and another one meant AW, while saying Puncture, i still have no answer.

So let me ask again. Why WE has more damage?

[bloodi]

Since one man think SS and MT tactic provides insane burst, and another one meant AW, while saying Puncture, i still have no answer.

So let me ask again. Why WE has more damage?

You still didnt explain how exit wound does more damage than witchbrew either.

[Genisaurus]

Oh
My
God
Senior
Balance
Moderator

Here comes the end of any balance in RoR, it seems.

Tklees has nothing to do with development or decision making

The role of the Balance Forum Moderator is to ensure posts on the Balance forums adhere to a certain standard of rhetoric and logical debate.

His opinion carries no extra weight, his job is to make sure no one is breaking the rules specific to the Balance forums.

This is true. But also, Tklees definitely knows his **** when it comes to WH/WE:

Spoiler:

[Foxbeep]

This is true. But also, Tklees definitely knows his **** when it comes to WH/WE:

Spoiler:

Lol yeah I didn't question that at all, I've seen him wreck like crazy
Just doing my best to keep the "OMG MODS" fears to a minimum.

I'm going to roll a WH to get my melee fix until Assault SW gets an overhaul so I'll be paying a lot of attention to his posts and others'.