Darosh wrote:
Yes, as with more numbers involved the individual ineptitude is being swallowed by the mass ~ not to mention it comes down to pug SC-esque dice rolls in terms of what you are actually facing. Rolling over pug warbands isn't difficault, is it?
I, too, am waiting for any proper, organized 24v24 - the only ones that have yet engaged in that and have gained themselves bragging rights are BT and Phalanx. Everyone else is just circlejerking about, accusing each other of zerging, endlessly.
This just doesn't add up, sorry. Still following the same logic - a few individual mistakes can cause deaths of many more people, therefore I can conclude that more skill was involved.
It's just silly, I fail to see how personal skill can overshadow roughly the same amount of personal skill with added collective skill on top in all aspects. Glaring example would be raids and 5men dungeons of WoW, and I doubt that you would argue in favor of dungeons being harder and superior content skill-wise. Same concept applies to RvR.
To sum it up - large-scale basically trades your reliance on immunity timings for more positional awareness on top of having to adjust your actions to a larger amount of players, both allied and enemy, within unquestionably much more unpredictable environment.
Communication and logistics, morale and sneaky tactics, etc. gets involved, besides large-scale fights are brutally quick, where you have to adjust on the fly within mere seconds, unlike i.e. 6v6 where you can fall asleep before anyone dies or sc's respawn camping - all those things have to be worked out and add an extra layer of personal and collective "skill", which is pretty much absent in all other small-scale activities.
Not that I'm shitting on those, at least not too much, but just to dismiss and brush off RvR as unskilled brainless zergfest is outright disingenuous.
peterthepan3 wrote:happy to just farm pugs
I wound't get this much flak if it's only pugs I was farming, I mean, ahem, "blob-zerging".

But i get what you mean, you enjoy more of less equal footing. And I prefer more things like a drunken bar brawl with knives'n'shiet, where a tough guy can die to a well placed and maybe slightly unfair suckerpunch.