Why Destro can pull?

[Musica]

Video from 2009

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig51FClYCc8

Yeah, i agreed that i was wrong already in my previous post. But from the video the people pulled are in the 30ft range and that's with registered damage, which it seems to me to be different now. But still, it could be all bias from my side, which just makes me more wrong if that's the case. On the wiki, which i do not trust that much due to not being properly updated, one of the changes to choppas is a range increase from 30ft to 50ft. If you tell me that the change is not there and that there weren't added any other changes, i'll believe it and call it just bias from my side. But for now, my personal experience seems to differ.

[Chinesehero]

Just now the same happen
Order 0 pull
Destro always pull
Why make this difference?
Yesterday order def
today Order attack
I think most of the time the Mara pull me, because only 1 target and it really far
on the other hand, WL seem cant do the same

[Musica]

Just now the same happen
Order 0 pull
Destro always pull
Why make this difference?
Yesterday order def
today Order attack
I think most of the time the Mara pull me, because only 1 target and it really far
on the other hand, WL seem cant do the same

That's order fault, not game fault.

[beezwax]

just change the fort and add another door/way in. currently its stupid, boring and useless for attackers and defenders. asking for class changes because fort is a shitshow should not be the way to go.

[Miszczu5647]

Last changes on Git to da choppa
viewtopic.php?f=42&t=29003&hilit=Git+to+da+choppa

[LunarF0X]

How about you stop standing right in the entrance to lord room swinging your sword and equip SnB and funnel just like everyone else? You're getting pulled not because of destro pulls being OP but because of your positioning.

[Tesq]

Gtdc was overbuffed under torque to perform a role that wasnt his own.

Gtdc place in his original intieration with 30 feet suppose to be used to peel ppl it serve a different purpose than a magus/engi which is good at but still is diff than an engi/magus pull, now it sit on 40 range from 50 and the 30% speed buff it had has been removed. Because basically was like have a wl with no pet able to burst on and on peeling ppl amd target swap as see fit post aoe spam plus also was used as escape tool instead.

Still before and now choppa primary survive on what make also slayer good.

Aka core stuff between classes and due be paired with a mara. Because stuff which distinguish choppa from.slayer is all in favour of slayer. Not all fault of slayer and not a fault of choppa stuff its more complicated....

[Aurandilaz]

so can all agree that the random 4 target melee range Choppa pull with 6 sec channel should be replaced with something actually good like ID or Shatter Limbs?

No, but i'm all for reverting changes, on any side, that are really dubious and aren't in line with the class identity. Or that provide an extra CC/Gap closer that wasn't in the game.

As for choppas, i would say that the pull doesn't make any sense and adds "some value" but for the overall job of the class is kinda unneeded. And i would say that it seems to perform just fine. Are all that choppas on the green side of the realm being rolled because they have the derpull? Or is it because the class is pretty good?

Ooh, I want a lecture about AoE Choppa identity.
Do we push like Slayers into enemy healer lines and debuff them with Shatter Limbs increasing cds by 5 sec which cripples their group healing, then popping Inevitable Doom with help of SM with 0s CD on squishies and watching them explode, then using Rampage so you can start tearing through tanks defences thanks to 100% strikethrough values.

Or are you talking about the old identity of Choppas where you used them to buff Sorc IW down to 0s, until it was changed so that Sorc IW no longer is reduced below 5 seconds.

[Musica]

Last changes on Git to da choppa
viewtopic.php?f=42&t=29003&hilit=Git+to+da+choppa

Thanks for linking me this, i was misremembering and being biased, the changes are minimal.

@Tesq Yeah, i guess time just made me forget about it and dying helped with the bias. Still, thanks for the rundown on the changes it had. I am honestly glad i wasn't here when it was at its peak kek.

[larsulu]

If you can prove me that Mara can pull in lord room at fort I give you 300 gold on order side.
Take a screenshot.
Btw if any order get mara pull from in/out fort is probably afk.
And you shouldn’t be afk.