[SL] why so unpopular?

[Therros]

That's a fascinating coincidence then. To have 4 of them at the top. But sure, dream on.

Shadow Warriors are in a good spot, but the only reason they top the leaderboards is not even through strength. Its just ridiculously easy to AoE dot everything in a clump and then get kill credit for it even if you did a miniscule amount of damage with the DOT. Shadow warrior on leaderboard is literally all fluff, I was rank 1 weekly just the other day through aoe spamming scenarios doing next to no meaningful damage lol

SW is a class broken since the beginning

good haunting

Sws have some good finisher + ranged (more visibility of low hp targets, zero time to get to that target) and i can see Annalena and Lethargia play from morning to evening. Idk why destro crying all the time, Destro sorcs and SHs just delete most of sws in 3 secs. And when Sw is attacked by WE and cant even go out from stun before died.

[Stimpz]

Slayer was never that good, Destro just like whining when their big tanks can't 100% block everything. AoE damage on SL was just fluff unless you had a bunch of Slayers (Which rarely happened), Rampage was iterally a non issue because why would dps attack tanks?
What happened was that in some RvR situation, a rampaging SL got face to face with the usual BO/Chosen front line and did some damage to them. Not much, mind you, because AoE was so gimped. But that was enough for them to cry.

ST WL was always better than AoE Slayer even during the apex of the whining. WL was the only class that could reliably kill Shammies and SHs without much trouble because of Pounce and debuffs, Slayer could never dream of doing that because your burst wasn't high enough if you specced AoE Tree.

Man, there are exaggerations on both sides for this topic, but this is really not true. I don't know what your motivation is to bend history like this except for stirring the pot and derailing the topic.
(Which worked for me)

[Sulorie]

ST WL was always better than AoE Slayer even during the apex of the whining. WL was the only class that could reliably kill Shammies and SHs without much trouble because of Pounce and debuffs, Slayer could never dream of doing that because your burst wasn't high enough if you specced AoE Tree.

Uhm, Slayer ST spec was going high in AOE tree because of ID dot.
Rampage wasn't op because people attacked tanks, it was because of guard damage being undefendable.

[Panzer80]

Devs left them OP for too long and spoiled the player base. That's what happens when u have a 2-person balance team who still has to work for a living.

[Mooselager]

That is just an indication of playtime you realise that right ?

Kind of need to flesh out your statement a bit more with some substance. What are you trying to say? That by simply being online makes you top kills? That players that are online all the time tend to lean towards SW?

Even on its own, your statement/question doesn't make any sense, it need's to explain itself, lol.

[Sulorie]

That is just an indication of playtime you realise that right ?

Kind of need to flesh out your statement a bit more with some substance. What are you trying to say? That by simply being online makes you top kills? That players that are online all the time tend to lean towards SW?

Even on its own, your statement/question doesn't make any sense, it need's to explain itself, lol.

It's not that difficult. The longer you play, the more time you have to make kills. Furthermore you want to play range DD to be less dependent on groups or just play solo the entire time. At times when the server pop is low, it's more save to roam as well. When you follow zerg you can easily pick your targets and be relatively protected to do so.

Other order range DD don't meet the criteria.

[what63]

That is just an indication of playtime you realise that right ?

Kind of need to flesh out your statement a bit more with some substance. What are you trying to say? That by simply being online makes you top kills? That players that are online all the time tend to lean towards SW?

Even on its own, your statement/question doesn't make any sense, it need's to explain itself, lol.

It's not that difficult. The longer you play, the more time you have to make kills. Furthermore you want to play range DD to be less dependent on groups or just play solo the entire time. At times when the server pop is low, it's more save to roam as well. When you follow zerg you can easily pick your targets and be relatively protected to do so.

Other order range DD don't meet the criteria.

All true. But it kinda helps that all it takes to kill most non-bis players is an AA, a fester and FtW right? Killboards aren't a trumpcard, but they most certainly are an indication beyond purely time spent. Why time was spent and how it compares to other classes with similar time spent matters. Even with group support, SWs have entirely cannibalized the role BW used to hold, so this isn't purely about solo players topping chart either. They aren't simply better solo, they are better all around.

Just gonna repeat this; SW never needed higher damage on their abilities aside from flame arrow. It most certainly did not need this in combination with more crit damage. And then there is one of the more broken mobiliy tactics still left in the game just to top it off.

[Mooselager]

High mobility, solid defensive CD's, Big nukes, Solid dots. SW's have it all as a dream for a solo-roamer.

There is a reason why more & more order WB's are seeing more SW's & less Engi's/BW's.
Heck, last night in Eataine, the vast majority of DPS on orderside were SW's.
I'd reference the killboard to confirm, but looks like it's not working at the moment, hmm.

[Ywhi]

Slayer is fine.

It has been debug and slightly nerf from SC spec with being absurdly good on both ST and Aoe and that's about it.

Rampage change make it just better at some situation and remove the only big issue of this spell pre-nerf being a bit to strong for funnel situation. So overall a good change.

This is mostly l2P issue from the community or WB leader that doesn't know how to make Slayer effective for WB bombing.

Stop whining.

Cheers

[Bozzax]

I obviously is biased but I think all abilities should trigger a gcd on all realms and on all classes (sry slayers it is just poor design that prevent the class from being reasonably balanced)

A supported slayer is still is still second on my oh **** list (when I log on occasionally)but nowadays there are mostly 3-5 SWs cheesing pug kills bc it doesn’t even take an org group to be effective. All that is needed is an assist macro and dest healers that don’t use clns (which is a guaranteed)

Don’t think the balance efforts yields improved balance so far and I’m mostly not playing. Apologies if don’t perceive the current game situation correctly