BW: Current state

[lumpi33]

Targets are usually in front of me. I don't need the 25ft behind me, Id rather have more range in front of me like they have. Forcing a squishy rdps like BW to go into melee range for their m2 or m4 is madness. The melees are made for the front line, BWs aren't.

At a certain point, when someone is this reliably wrong, ignoring their opinion stops being rude and starts being practical. You could always crawl back to your Shadow Warrior, though that would be just as unimpressive.

Just because you don't like my opinion doesn't give you the right to attack me. That's already your second post that goes below the belt. You better choose your words more carefully. Bring arguments if you think I am wrong. Where are they? Beside that I said "I don't need... , Id rather...". That means that "I" would prefer something. That doesn't mean everybody has to agree. That's the point of a discussion.

[wonshot]

While most of this is pulled out of my as* and from the past.
But I did do more than 100+ city instances back when that was the main drive in the game and my experiences on BW was that I could pugstomp most comps because thats just what the class does, it punches down not up.
Azeyune was the only WL who in order stomps could get more killdmg than me.

Whenever I faced good 6mans. Teinhalla, Advarka, Teefz. No matter the amount of crosshealing would save me the class is just too fragile (also I was getting skillgapped to some extend)
In good balanced instances on warband scale vs Tup, Ere we Go, PnP, FMJ, Gravord, BW was still a good opening target for destro to go in and attempt to trade within his killzone. That is just something, that NA instance didnt provide as Destro didnt bother about bringing resist party buffs to each group. Didnt even leave out of the same door as communication wasnt being done, didnt have a concept of backline healer pressure on top of frontline ball trading etc etc. The game and the quality of the players have just dipped dramaticly over the last few years. I do agree some of the instances in here are good examples, but thats still a racial restricted warband queueing if im not mistaken. It can work but it comes with its limitations naturally.

Some of this has changed due to direct changes to BW and/or other classes. Now the Armor shield stacking with pots help some but not a whole lot.
The build and the rotation is still the same for the fireclown and you can do amazing scores with it. Ive been standing in Reikwald and passed on crests for guildies trying to speed gear them and get 100+ dbs with just RoF potato build. Ive ran 3 kite groups of BWs with burningheads with VII fighting warbands with turn-n-burn strategies. The BW class can kinda do it all, but ill still underline that its a class that punches down, not up.
Now does it need to be a competitive class, maybe? But for how the game is being played in 2026 he is kinda the king in the kindergarden.

Ive played it in Asia primetime, EU primetime, NA primetimes. I, personally, just think its abit outdated in rotation & mobility, only has FF as skillexpression left and that the classmechanic could use more dumps and a real filler ability for aoe.

Choppa frontal dot + Stomp + Bring it on puts out more damage than a BW doing Annihilate + FB dot + FoR. Why does the BW who is already in a wheelchair need to stand still to unload, when the Choppa can push/reposition meanwhile.

[vanbuinen77]

The poster is a known forum troll with no skill