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Buffing the Shadow Warrior/What change would you like to see?

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Penril
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Re: Buffing the Shadow Warrior/What change would you like to see?

Post#51 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:45 pm

lastalien wrote:
That would be cool, and I wrote about it in the forum - proposals. But it was rejected. Developers are not seeing a class problem, because they do not play for these classes. Most of their decisions on the balance of the classes was done by speculative conclusions, rather than through the collection and analysis of statistics, which enables the server. But for the sake of justice, it must be admitted that they do not have enough resources to complete testing changes.
Link me your proposal. Like I said, at one point i was rejecting SW proposals simply because there was the possibility of having an .ab ex. I am reviewing these proposals and might consider moving them to discussions if they make sense.

Unfortunately, most of the SW proposals were, simply put, crap.

As for the underlined part, you are completely wrong. If you are gonna make a statement like this again, I hope you can prove it somehow.

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Re: Buffing the Shadow Warrior/What change would you like to see?

Post#52 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:48 pm

Penril wrote:
Link me your proposal. Like I said, at one point i was rejecting SW proposals simply because there was the possibility of having an .ab ex. I am reviewing these proposals and might consider moving them to discussions if they make sense.
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Re: Buffing the Shadow Warrior/What change would you like to see?

Post#53 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:57 pm

Ty.

edit: I agree with Noise and his reasoning for declining that thread.

The issue with SW is that is has 2 things that are pretty much mandatory: Powerful Draw and Shadow Sting, and both are in the same tree (Skirmisher). A Scout/Assault tree is pretty much unheard of, and if anyone runs something like that i'm sure he will agree it is not optimal. So I would focus on fixing/buffing underperforming skills & tactics from those trees to make them more desirable and a viable alternative to the cookie cutter Skirmish/XXXXX specs. But just having more AP won't automatically make a Scout/Assault spec viable... I'm sure you can agree with me on that one.

Also, keep in mind that any possible buffs should take Unshakeable Focus into consideration. That morale prevents us from buffing certain skills the way we want, though I believe devs have something planned for it.

lastalien
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Re: Buffing the Shadow Warrior/What change would you like to see?

Post#54 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:58 pm

ok. thx
You have not played for SW in the scout spec. AP more then all

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Dabbart
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Re: Buffing the Shadow Warrior/What change would you like to see?

Post#55 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:37 pm

Penril plays a damned good SW for the record.

If you're having trouble killing people as a SW, you're doing something wrong...
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Re: Buffing the Shadow Warrior/What change would you like to see?

Post#56 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:42 pm

I play sw main trolololo
And as i said (and i agree with pen) the tactics are in the way of making all trees work.

lastalien
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Re: Buffing the Shadow Warrior/What change would you like to see?

Post#57 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:42 pm

Excellent Trololo

Interesting, some of the commentators have tried spec without FA at scout? Why are you so stubborn that do not accept the arguments of the man who played for the SW more than all of you combined, and did not do a bad thing?

Try to undestand this spec

http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=sw; ... 3957:3967:
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Dabbart
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Re: Buffing the Shadow Warrior/What change would you like to see?

Post#58 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:54 pm

Looks like a spec that doesn't have a heal debuff. RoR changed the slots of shadow sting and flanking shot.

It also looks like someone whom Never swaps stances.
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Re: Buffing the Shadow Warrior/What change would you like to see?

Post#59 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:59 pm

Dabbart wrote:Looks like a spec that doesn't have a heal debuff. RoR changed the slots of shadow sting and flanking shot.

It also looks like someone whom Never swaps stances.
seen from afar specialist SW lol
after last patch with SW change, SS go to 5p

This spec mix Scout/AS/Scirm

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Re: Buffing the Shadow Warrior/What change would you like to see?

Post#60 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:38 pm

lastalien wrote:Excellent Trololo

Interesting, some of the commentators have tried spec without FA at scout? Why are you so stubborn that do not accept the arguments of the man who played for the SW more than all of you combined, and did not do a bad thing?

Try to undestand this spec

http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=sw; ... 3957:3967:

No offence, but that experience doesn't seem to show.

Ap problems are an issue, but there's more to it than that if we want to make each spec viable.
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